Guest TennesseeTurkey Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) I bought a cheap bass pro block knock-off and apparently the guy at the bow shot didnt glue my inserts right out of 12 arrows I've shot so far 7 of the inserts have came out of my arrows and I cant get any of them...While sighting in my bow I hit a pine for a back-stop thinking it would be easy to remove arrows well it was but the inserts were eaten! so that made 4 inserts into the pine 3 in my target Edited February 17, 2009 by TennesseeTurkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 This is exactly why I like to build my own arrows ... And using a Pine Tree as a backstop will only cost you more arrows IMHO ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TennesseeTurkey Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 This is exactly why I like to build my own arrows ... And using a Pine Tree as a backstop will only cost you more arrows IMHO ... Well it was a pine tree, my house, or my car you tell me whats better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 your shooting a new katera right? Get used to it....the two guys that shoot them at our indoor are constantly losing knocks. They shoot hot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layin on the smackdown Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Well Will, that pretty much stinks to some it up... Just so you know...i would be extremely careful about shooting those arrows you shot into wood...carbon arrows can splinter from the inside out and look fine, but are not fine. If they are splintered on the inside, you cannot see it, and when you go to shoot one, it could potentially blow up in front of your face....sending carbon shrapnel into your forearm and your face. Its not a good deal. Just a heads up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Well it was a pine tree, my house, or my car you tell me whats better Well ,, from those 3 choices I'd definitely choose the tree .. lol I'd be looking for a softer backstop ... If you have a Tractor Supply Store nearby ,, they usually give away the foam transport blockings that come with their deliveries ... I pick up a pallets worth and tie then together for a great 8' X 8' backstop ... Kyle, it's the inserts he's losing not the Knocks .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTINGMAN Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I bought a new dozen of arrrows one time and the inserts all came out when I shot them the first time.I took them back and he used a different type of glue when he replaced them and they never came out again.Maybe you need to look into this and give it a try,as for hitting the tree,keep your shots close until youget your pins dialedin and then move back and readjust gradually.Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TennesseeTurkey Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I bought a new dozen of arrrows one time and the inserts all came out when I shot them the first time.I took them back and he used a different type of glue when he replaced them and they never came out again.Maybe you need to look into this and give it a try,as for hitting the tree,keep your shots close until youget your pins dialedin and then move back and readjust gradually.Good luck. I did at first but not shooting for 5 years tends to make you relearn your shooting....I just missed a few shots left and right of the target that hit the tree....I got it back to about a 6 inch group tho by this afternoon just had to take a little rust off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Buy a hay bale or two and stick behind the fake block target. I cannot tell you how many arrows I have had to redo after they've come from Bass Pro Shops. Little trick I've learned is to take a pair of pliers, grabbing the tip and give it a little twist just to see if it breaks loose. Most of the time they do with little pressure on them. Clean the old glue off the inserts, use some 400 grit paper and scuff up the inside of the shaft, clean with alcohol, use a two mix apoxy and insert the inserts back in. Bass Pro uses a super glue type insert glue and it stinks for cold weather, but is a quick set glue for them to get the arrows out after they've been cut to length. Later, if you can. Buy a true block target, I bought one last year and a 400 fps crossbow will not shoot through it and the arrows are easy to pull out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TennesseeTurkey Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Buy a hay bale or two and stick behind the fake block target. I cannot tell you how many arrows I have had to redo after they've come from Bass Pro Shops. Little trick I've learned is to take a pair of pliers, grabbing the tip and give it a little twist just to see if it breaks loose. Most of the time they do with little pressure on them. Clean the old glue off the inserts, use some 400 grit paper and scuff up the inside of the shaft, clean with alcohol, use a two mix apoxy and insert the inserts back in. Bass Pro uses a super glue type insert glue and it stinks for cold weather, but is a quick set glue for them to get the arrows out after they've been cut to length. Later, if you can. Buy a true block target, I bought one last year and a 400 fps crossbow will not shoot through it and the arrows are easy to pull out. It wasn't a BP glue I got these from the bow shop.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 your shooting a new katera right? Get used to it....the two guys that shoot them at our indoor are constantly losing knocks. They shoot hot! That has nothing to do with it..... they are loosing them because they are not installed correctly.... and we are talking about inserts here.. get with the program:rolleyes::p:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 That has nothing to do with it..... they are loosing them because they are not installed correctly.... and we are talking about inserts here.. get with the program:rolleyes::p:D Ya Ya Ya, so I didn't pay attention...sure me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_man_huntin Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 What you should do is go to the shop and complain. Even the nock offs cost an arm and a leg and they should be skimping out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I had the same problem with the inserts coming out when I first bought my block target. When shooting at your target make sure that the target is set up so the lines between the layers are going up and down. When you have it set up the other way your arrows are not slipping in between the layers, they are going through them which makes for a more binding fit. That was my experience with the layer style target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Use 5 minute Epoxy................Since starting to use it I haven't had any come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Before I glue mine, I run a piece of emery cloth, its like a piece of sand paper inside the shaft. This etches the carbon and gives the super glue something to bite into. But, before all that is done I use the G5 ASD Tool to square the shaft, then use it on the insert to make sure that is square. Never had any problems yet with broad head wobble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Before I glue mine, I run a piece of emery cloth, its like a piece of sand paper inside the shaft. This etches the carbon and gives the super glue something to bite into. But, before all that is done I use the G5 ASD Tool to square the shaft, then use it on the insert to make sure that is square. Never had any problems yet with broad head wobble. This actually the proper way inserts should be done ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 You can also use a bore brush, the kind to clean the bore of a rifle. Just find one that fits tight enough to scuff the inside. They make a tool for this, but with different diameters of shafts, not sure it will work. Seen them at Cabela's. Which is why I like the emery cloth, you can roll it to fit any inside diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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