PotashRLS Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Got into a little "difference of opinions" this afternoon while setting up our booth for the Wisconsin Deer Classic Show. Our favorite Taxidermist brought to our booth a Taxidermist Pro/Championship/know it all blah blah blah fella. Our taxidermist does awesome work and 7 of the 8 heads at our booth are ones he did. 3 of the heads are freshly mounted and have grey noses. Our taxi says that is how they are supposed to be according to this other fella the know it all guy. The noses in my opinion look like crap. This Grand Champion Taxi guy tells our fellas you must not have seen many live deer in your days. :eek: Whow, wrong thing to say. Long story short we are in awe of this new fad of grey noses all of a sudden. What do you guys know about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkV Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Does this look grey to you??????? Looks black to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Seen lots of deer noses live up close in person and in pics from cams Tracy. Here is a recent pic. Does not look gray to me, don't recall ever seeing any mounts with gray noses either, and I have seen lots of mounts. The king of bucks trailer and the competition mounts at the nwtf, I don't think I saw any that had gray noses either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I think in real life it's a lot like a dog's nose. If it's wet, it's black, if it's dry it's dark gray. Personally, I like the look of a wet nose, i.e. black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Thanks guys, keep your pics and responses coming....... I will hopefully get to talk to the clown as I work the show booth tonight and all day Sunday. I'll fill you in later. Thanks! Will be a very political show..............saw a booth being set up by the "hunters against Earn A Buck" Should be some heated deer management discussions this year:cool: The Taxidermy contest is awesome and I will definitely be looking for grey noses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 There was also a Whitetail Taxidermy competition at the NWTF. Here are a couple of examples. They look black to me as do the bucks on King of Bucks display wall. There is a grayish hue on top of the nose in the close up. Don't know if that is lighting or intended to be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisticwhitetails Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) Theres no right or wrong answer to this. It totally depends on the indivdual deer. As an across the board average though, I would say MOST deer start out as a dark to med. grey on the bottom of the nose pad and fades into darker shades of black, brown as you go up. Personally, Ive never seen an all grey or all black nose pad. That said, I understand why the taxi made the comment about you not being around live deer. What he means is up close, at arms length for hours at a time. Looking closely at anatomy, hair patterns and skin colors. You need to realize that taxidermist are re-creating details in a mount as the animal was before it expired. They do so by using photo reference of live animals. Once an animal is dead, muscles relax, blood moves and skin color changes. Ive had several arguements with hunters over the color inside of ears. "THAT'S WRONG! ALL DEERS EARS ARE WHITE INSIDE" Yup, they are when their dead! Edited February 27, 2009 by artisticwhitetails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Good answer. It is a definition issue of sorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 When I first looked at my latest mount I noticed some white stuff on top of his nose. It kind of freaked me out until I got up close and saw that it was just the color of his hair up there. http://www.realtree.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/27809/ppuser/129 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtech_archer07 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Personally, I have never seen a grey nose on a deer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambo Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I always thought they were black but I am no expert. I suppose there are color variations on all animals so it is possible that it could be regional or a genetic trait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoythunter37 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 This is my dads deer this year and I am pretty sure this nose isn't gray. I would have to think this is black..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 The nose should not look grey when it's all said and done. To the human eye it will resemble black. When painting a deers nose we throw in a little white and flesh color too, but you would never notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Primetime/IL Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 For the most part a deers nose is black, not jet black by any means but it does have a grey tone to it as the above reference pics show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWTaxidermy Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 No they are not black, they may appear to be black to the eye but indeed is multiple colors. Take a deer to competition with a black nose and your just askin for trouble. I personally use, flesh tone,gray,black umber,burnt umber,gloss. These 4 colors when applied in specific orders will give you a natural look that can be found in most deer. Keep in mind if the nose is dry it will appear to be darker in color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberlandtaxi Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 The second pic of the live deer nose is an excellent example of a deer nose NOT being black. They are dark, and if you saw a mount w/ a grey nose that stood out it was obviously too light. Not only are they not jet black, if you look closely you will see they are lighter between the nodules (bumps) than the nodules themselves. Often they are more smooth on top than they are near the lip line, and as you can see in the pics, most of the time a whitetails nose is wet from the constant licking. These subtleties are what quality taxidermists are trying to replicate, but if you don't get it right, they can look bad-wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Was watching the taxidermy for sportsman show with Dan Rinehardt the other day. He mounted a whitetail deer. During the painting process he painted the nose jet black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberlandtaxi Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Was watching the taxidermy for sportsman show with Dan Rinehardt the other day. He mounted a whitetail deer. During the painting process he painted the nose jet black. I wouldn't take anything Dan Rinehart did as being correct, unless you want your noses end up looking like his. I want mine to look like that second reference picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWTaxidermy Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) I wouldn't take anything Dan Rinehart did as being correct, unless you want your noses end up looking like his. I want mine to look like that second reference picture. I agree, I wouldnt follow too much of Dans ways. And second I wouldnt follow much of what any Taxidermist does, everyone has their own way od doing things and thats ok, but for me good reference photos will show you the correct way! Edited March 12, 2009 by RWTaxidermy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Thank god, I'm not alone on thoughts and opinions of Dan Rinehart. There is something seriously out of place about the guy. When he did re-do the nose on that deer, I was very surprised he didn't whip out his famous Dandy Nose tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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