Adjam5 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Another NON NRA source. This is about a month old, but spot right on what is coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireStrut Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Hits the nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 From this video, Eric Holder prior to his confirmation being voted on: "I have no intention--this administration has no intention of doing anything that would affect a states regulation of firearms, who can carry a firearm, under what circumstances. There is nothing we have discussed, nothing that is in planning, nothing that I can imagine that we are going to be doing in that regard." Amazing how quickly that has changed. Most of us have heard what Mr. Holder had to say about banning semi automatics due to the problems with Mexico being unable to control their problems. Kind of surprised that cnn would even air this story to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I was also surprised William. But Lou Dobbs' report has always been a conservative point of view promoting America and family values. You have to like that Wyoming Senator Barasso, and where he stands on Obamtism and the 2nd amendment;). I need to visit Wyoming like I have seen Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 William did you see Lou Dobb's report tonight? Part of it was about the Tennessee newspapers making the list of who has pistol permits public record and very accessible to whomever wants that info. Names and address' of everyone who has a pistol license in Tennessee! Insane stuff is happening everywhere. This has already happened in our neck of the woods. Our local paper has kept up on its website, on the Crime page; the data base of all the pistol licensees in ours and surrounding counties. They said it is public record and the public should know who has guns. This is just an anti 2nd amendment stance that is led by a very liberal newspaper looking to OUT gun owners. So much for privacy huh? I say this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 I don't watch cnn, so no I did not see it Anthony, but I did know about the conceal carry license holders listing being released by a newspaper. That was in our local news a week or so ago. The spokesperson for the newspaper was pretty clueless, and did say that criminals are not likely to attempt to break in to a gun owners home, that may be true only in part of the smarter than average criminals who can and will read. Sad truth is in my opinion that this simply gives criminals an advantage in knowing they need to watch those homes to see when no one is there, and the listing also lets them know where they can likely find weapons to steal. Very messed up situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Sheriff Joe here in Maricopa County can't get carry concealed permits out fast enough. He knows it's a great deterrent to the violent crime wave we have here because of the drug cartels. Nobody I know would comply with any ban. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 I don't watch cnn, so no I did not see it Anthony, but I did know about the conceal carry license holders listing being released by a newspaper. That was in our local news a week or so ago. The spokesperson for the newspaper was pretty clueless, and did say that criminals are not likely to attempt to break in to a gun owners home, that may be true only in part of the smarter than average criminals who can and will read. Sad truth is in my opinion that this simply gives criminals an advantage in knowing they need to watch those homes to see when no one is there, and the listing also lets them know where they can likely find weapons to steal. Very messed up situation. I don't watch CNN either, but Lou Dobbs is one of my favorite reporters who is pro America, pro 2nd amendment and says it on air! Unusual for the commie news network. While maybe criminals will are not likely to break into homes with guns, the ones that will , know that they have to kill anyone in their way. Armed opposition is expected. As far as permits being public record... The Dept of Motor vehicles/driver licenses are public record also. Why isn't that info accessible? That is a state privilege not a Federal constitutional right. So, I simply cannot believe that it is being put out there just because it is public record. All part of the liberal smear towards gun owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 The only other people on the public record list are sex offenders. Another example of making the gun owner out to be a bad guy in my opinion. What is the point of having a concealed carry system if the whole world knows you have a gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 I'm sure the information would be incredibly difficult to obtain, if it is even available at all, but I would love to see the burglary rates for the homes of the concealed carry licensees vs the rest of the state. I'll bet you a dollar against a donut hole that it will be lower. And I'll bet you another dollar that the media and the libs would find some way to raise a fuss about it and call it unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 I'm sure the information would be incredibly difficult to obtain, if it is even available at all, but I would love to see the burglary rates for the homes of the concealed carry licensees vs the rest of the state. I'll bet you a dollar against a donut hole that it will be lower. And I'll bet you another dollar that the media and the libs would find some way to raise a fuss about it and call it unfair. That was kind of what the spokesperson for the paper said Mike. They acted kind of like it was doing a favor to gunowners for this information to be out there in the sense that it would deter criminals from attempting to break into gunowners homes. I will try to see if I can find a video link from our newschannel. Being that this just happened recently, would not expect there to be any data yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that publishing the names of concealed carry licensees is a good thing. There are all kinds of potential problems, such as an anti-gun employer deciding to retaliate, or not hire someone. What I'm saying is that even though the intent of the paper was malicious, there may be some unintended consequences that could benefit license holders. Edited March 3, 2009 by Texan_Til_I_Die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Could not find a link to the story on video that was on our news, but here is a link to the text from the story http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?s=9853700 and an updated story http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?s=9926358. an excerpt from the first link: "Commercial Appeal Editor Chris Peck says with so many people in Memphis with firearms, criminals don't really need a list. In the editorial, he went on to say, "If criminals were checking the permit-to-carry list before picking a target, would they likely choose a house where they know the owner could be carrying a gun, or would they more likely steer away from that house to avoid possible confrontation?" Peck said the information serves the public interest." Also ran across this story which was kind of interesting http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?s=9932070. Guess now it is possible to check the database and see which of our reps have ccw permits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 this is just step one. we have 4 years of bad news ahead. dig in, it will be a long run, possibly with no recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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