mossyhorn Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Can anyone direct me to a link about this law. They were talking about it on the radio and I would like to find out more. I know Kentucky is a shoot first state but what does that mean. The only sites I can find bash the law and make it seem like it gives people the right to just shoot anyone. The reason I ask is because last night we heard some thumping outside and well it freaked us out. I always keep my guns in a case and locked but thought about it and if someone did break in I would be screwed. So now I have a shot gun hid inside he bathroom closet inside of a hidden space in the wall. Just incase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtech_archer07 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I would assume the shoot first law means that if someone threatens you in any way, you have the right to shoot first and ask questions later. That would explain the name and why everyone is bashing it. It kinda gives the sense of vigilante justice. Here is a link... http://www.shootfirstlaw.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 ShootFirstLaw.org is a project of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "The net effect of the new 'Shoot First' law in Florida is, unfortunately, precisely what we feared," said Sarah Brady, honorary chair of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. ...and if you read way down at the bottom you'll find where they dont even stop with simply telling what they believe..they cross the line even further into slander: The Shoot First Law was conceived, sponsored, and pushed by the National Rifle Association, an organization whose goal is to get more guns into more hands in more places, no matter the cost. Consider the promoters of the website "shootfirstlaw.org":rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtech_archer07 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 GW, I wasn't implying that the website was the best in the world, simply that it provided an explanation. They definitely take it waaayy to far, but it's a definition at least. "The law, passed in the last year in 15 states and being considered in eight others, allows the extraordinary use of deadly force when a person simply doesn't want to back away from a confrontation." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 ...and if you read way down at the bottom you'll find where they dont even stop with simply telling what they believe..they cross the line even further into slander: Quote: ShootFirstLaw.org is a project of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "The net effect of the new 'Shoot First' law in Florida is, unfortunately, precisely what we feared," said Sarah Brady, honorary chair of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Consider the promoters of the website "shootfirstlaw.org":rolleyes: Anything related to Sarah Brady will obviously be antigun and likely skewed non factual information, really is not worth the time to even read any of her garbage or information from sites that support her crap, unless you feel the need to get your blood pressure up. This might be a better article to read http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=2144. You can go to the senate bill by clicking on the SB38 from there or click on the second link here. I am not a lawyer, but my understanding of the legislation is that you have a right to protect yourself, seems pretty straight forward. As far as home invasions or break ins go, it is my opinion that every state should defend the right of the homeowner, this liberal crap and lawsuits defending criminals, who get what they deserve, and awarding them for breaking the law makes me absolutely sick. Any intruder surrenders their rights when they broke the law, just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 GW, I wasn't implying that the website was the best in the world, simply that it provided an explanation. They definitely take it waaayy to far, but it's a definition at least. "The law, passed in the last year in 15 states and being considered in eight others, allows the extraordinary use of deadly force when a person simply doesn't want to back away from a confrontation." No Problem here...I believe I understood what you were trying to do. BTW...I have the right to use "Extraordinary Force" if I'm confronted...especially in my own home! Why should I be servile and back down??? I did not initiate the confrontation...but I will end it;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layin on the smackdown Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Any intruder surrenders their rights when they broke the law, just my 2 cents. Agreed to the 12th power...couldn't have said it better myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossyhorn Posted March 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTINGMAN Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I live here in KY and I remember a couple of months back a guy got shot and killed by someone in the middle of the night .The guy that got killed wasnt trying to break in he was drunk and went to the wrong house and was beating on the door wanting in,the people that lived there felt thretened and shot him through the door and killed him.I dont know the final outcome but the last I heard was that the guy that done the shooting got out of it because of this law.I allways thought someone had to be in your house to shoot them but this prooved me wrong,this was just an honest mistake made by a guy that paid the price in a bad way and the other guy was just protecting his family that he felt was thretened and will have to live with the thought of killing an inocent man the rest of his life.I beleive in the law but also beleive in makeing sure of your target,wether it be in the woods or in your home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossyhorn Posted March 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yeah thi law seems like it could go both ways. I could see many people getting away with murder but I would not want to go to jail for defending myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) "I could see many people getting away with murder but I would not want to go to jail for defending myself." I don't agree at all. My perspective is a little more technical than most, but you can not throw words like "murder" around recklessly. Murder is generally defined as unlawfully, knowingly, or intentionally killing a human being. In Indiana, then you have other statutes that define the parameters of legal justification for use of deadly force, which includes, "to prevent or terminate the other person's unlawful entry of or attack on the person's dwelling, curtilage, or occupied motor vehicle." If you are a drunk and you go to someone else's door by mistake and can't get in that's one thing. If you continue to beat on the door and try to force it open even after someone inside yells at you to go away or you will be shot, then that's different. Due to your own intoxication, you have impaired your ability to respond as a normal person and continued an "attack" on a dwelling after you have been warned and ordered to leave. At that point the drunk gets whatever he gets in my book. A shame-yes, a shame he got so plastered he couldn't even follow a simple order to save his life. A shame a homeowner shot somebody that in retrospect PROBABLY was not a huge danger to them. A homeowner is usually held to the standard of a "reasonable person." They aren't required to know or find out what the entire story is, they are required to act in manner that is reasonable given what they know or should know at the time. Do you have to open the door to find out if it is a drunk neighbor or a homocidal maniac? No, that would unnecessarily expose an innocent person to grave danger. The facts will be fleshed out whenever somebody is shot, and I am confident in modern law enforcement's ability to differentiate between murder as defined above, and a legally justifiable shooting. Whether or not charges are filed begins to get political, but the facts are the facts. Sorry for the long-winded rant, but just be glad I kept it brief. I can ramble on this one... HB Edited March 24, 2009 by Hoosierbuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Do any of you think the existence or non-existence of this law would alter the way you would act if you or your family were threatened (or at least if you thought you were being threatened)? Law or no law, if someone broke into my house I'd get my gun, aim, and then confront the intruder by saying stop. If he/she complies with my commands the police will end up taking him/her away. If not then the police would not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTINGMAN Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 If someone broke into my house the police would be takeing them out........ feet first in a body bag! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt or be Hunted Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Do any of you think the existence or non-existence of this law would alter the way you would act if you or your family were threatened (or at least if you thought you were being threatened)? Law or no law, if someone broke into my house I'd get my gun, aim, and then confront the intruder by saying stop. If he/she complies with my commands the police will end up taking him/her away. If not then the police would not be. right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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