ultratec1 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I have to get a bow set up for the 3-D season and I'm debating on which one to use. Here are the choices 07 Hoyt Vulcan set at 57lbs. with vector cams at 27.5" 08 Hoyt Ultra-elite with 3000 limbs, 57-58lbs cam.5+ set 27" 09 Hoyt Vantage Pro with 27" spiral cams set at a max of 50lbs. Now its up to you guys to decide. I shot the Ultra-elite for all of the indoor season. I'm comfortable with this bow but not getting much speed out of it at all. 276 is the max I got last year. So what do you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 276 is good for ASA. I'd stick with the one you're most comfortable with. I've just made the mistake of switching sights. I've switched sights before, but they were always for a new version of the Copper John. Now, I've went to a Viper and I'm having trouble cupping the housing in my peep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 easy choice........vantage pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Hey Kyle did you notice that vantage pro has 50 lb limbs................ I would say UltraElite hands down............Your not gonna get the speed out of the Vantage pro that you want at 50 lbs. The Vulcan isn't a bad choice but it short and trust me that longer ATA will be more comfortable in your hands. You've been shooting that UltraElite all season I know you can drill with it. BTW..............I'm sure you already had your mind made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 still bet the vantage is flinging quick at 50lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 That Vantage is only a 308 IBO bow.........At 27" draw you would need around a 250 grain arrow to get 280 FPS. In the wind that light arrow would be all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 im thinking stay will the ultraelite, its what you shoot best. the other 2 bows are unknowns at this time. unless you have them and are shotoing the right now. let me know when your available to shoot.. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultratec1 Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Still undecided at this time. I'm going to set up all the bows and see what one shoots the best for me and which one is faster. I know the vulcan will be but I still want to shoot it and see how I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Vulcan will be faster but I doubt it will hold better............Best of luck deciding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 if ya can judge yardage I'd shoot the vantage 280 works.....trust me I shoot that speed and can't judge yardage and I miss by a little. If ya can judge better then me, then you can shoot 280 and shot it well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 He still has to put together an arrow that weighs 250 grains roughly though to get 280.................If he doesn't that he will be fighting the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Light speeds......it should be possible with them......they are thinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I ran something wrong before...........Or I just had the wrong number in my head............. http://bucklemke.com/ke/ke.php Here is the speed calculator...........At 27" 50lbs and the bow is a 308 IBO......... He would have to have 215 grain arrow. That is figuring 10 grains on the string.............If he is using a Specialty Archery peep it is gonna be slower. More grains added to the string the lighter the arrow will have to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultratec1 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Ok Guys I have a new bow to throw in the mix, 2005 ultra-tec 27.5" spiral cams, 55-65lbs 2000limbs. So right now there is Ultra-elite 57-58lbs 27/27.5" Vulcan 27" vector cam 59 lbs Vantage pro- maxed at 50 with 27" SPIRAL cams or Ultra-tec with 27.5" SPIRAL cams set at 58lbs. Nothing better then adding another bow to the equation to really mess things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Ultra-Tec.................Hands down. Spiral cams rock.........You can shoot a heavier arrow and get the speed you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcdeer54 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 08 Hoyt Ultra-elite with 3000 limbs, 57-58lbs cam.5+ set 27" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultratec1 Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 (edited) Well I guess that I didnt let everyone know what I decided..... I chose the Vulcan. With a few twists in the cables and strings we got the draw down to 27 1/4. I also had a problem in the past with mass weight of my bows and where I needed more of it. Well I used 2 dog weights on the left side of the bow to even out the weight of the sure-loc. I also have 3 Easton Black Max stabilizers and took weight off the 2 and put some weights on the front of the Max. It seems heavy to some but I've learned that mass weight helps with better holding;). I'm shooting 26 1/2" Easton litespeeds at 329gr. @62lbs is spitting them out@294fps. I've shot this bow at the last 6 shoots and I will say that this is the set-up that I have been looking for FOR a long long time!!! Heck Tony I will even go as far as saying that I'm shooting this bow better then the blue ultra-elite. Edited June 7, 2009 by ultratec1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 How does that set up perform in a crosswind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdawson Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I have to get a bow set up for the 3-D season and I'm debating on which one to use. Here are the choices 07 Hoyt Vulcan set at 57lbs. with vector cams at 27.5" 08 Hoyt Ultra-elite with 3000 limbs, 57-58lbs cam.5+ set 27" 09 Hoyt Vantage Pro with 27" spiral cams set at a max of 50lbs. Now its up to you guys to decide. I shot the Ultra-elite for all of the indoor season. I'm comfortable with this bow but not getting much speed out of it at all. 276 is the max I got last year. So what do you think i'll advise you to stick with 276 only.. it is the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultratec1 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 The combo shoots great in the wind. I haven't shot a bow that has been this comfortable and accurate in a long time!!!! The wind has no effect on it as of yet. I did shoot in the Yankton 600 classic this weekend with this bow and took 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampbuckva Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Sounds like you know what to do bud!!! That Ultra Elite sounds like the good stuff!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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