hoss Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 i seen this on another site i dont want this to be a p---ing contest just a question ive been told illinois has a perposel in the house to allow crossbows in bow season for everyone i dont have a problem with this it will bring alot of hunters int the game the young ,older, disable,and inexperienced i know its a big insue in other states also i feel xbows are archery gear no mater if they are pre c--ed im not going to argue with anyone on this i feel if its made leagle by the state then use whatever weapon you wish just my 2 cents just asking for your thoughts if this gets out of hand i hope the mods. will delete this post befor name calling and personal attacks start just hope everyone thats replys acts like adults thanks fot your oppions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow WE have a similar law in ontario and i do not like it. Basically you get those who want to archery hunt shooting recurves, or compounds, and some yahoo's who want to extend their season pick up a cross bow and start flinging arrows. I am all for teh disabled being able to shoot them in teh archery season. Yes there are some responsible crossbow shooters who aren't disabled, but overall it seems the majority think it is an easy way to extend their season and do not practice with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow well i use one and love it...have my decoy in the backyard and practice with it all the time.i think i am going to try turkey hunting with it this year.by the way bow season is the only season where i live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popgun Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow I also use a crossbow. In AR it is legal as archery equipment for everyone. (no handicap permits needed) The entire Archery Deer totals are less than 8% of the total AR deer harvest. Crossbows have been legal here for everyone during all seasons for many years and it hasn't hurt the deer population. The number of folks who use them is low, so that % of the harvest is still only a small percentage with a crossbow. I'll check the stats. again to be sure. 2002-03 season 6934 deer taken with re curves and compounds and 2815 with crossbow. 2003-04 season 6232 with re curves and compounds and 2946 with crossbows. Naturally, during ML and Modern Gun season the largest number of deer are taken. .....popgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow I have coined a word for this contraversy. It's called: NIMSS = Not In My Special Season Point being this would not even be an issue if their were no special seasons. How many of you would still bowhunt if you didn't have the season? Where I hunt rifle season is Aug 15th to Jan 1st with NO special Archery season. Yet I still bowhunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow no special bow season here for turkey but i am going to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jereseyhunter101 Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow My thought is that only disabled persons should be able to use a crossbow. The way i see it it makes it easier for a person to harvest a deer. If they use a crossbow they dont have to worry about the deer catching there movement while drawing a bow, most use scopes, and the hunter can use a rest with a crossbow unlike a regular bowhunter.Its like a firearm that shoots arrows. I would rather miss a deer the hard way then by taking it the easy way.For me i think its just a lazy way out for some hunters. But thats just my opinon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow are you saying you would rather wound a deer rather than use good equipment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jereseyhunter101 Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow NO a clean miss. And i do use good equipment it just doesnt have a scope on it i dont have a trigger and i dont use a rest. I practice with my equipment "compound bow" and know i am effective with it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popgun Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow jereseyhunter 101, You very well may change your tune when you are 59 years old and you no longer feel confident in trying to hold back your compound bow. You may have no "disability" but just can't do it anymore. The season will go by, and you may not have a chance to hunt until Muzzleloader or Modern Gun season. I knew that this thread was going to get my dander up. .....popgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow yep i am with you popgun.use whats right for you and what is legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jereseyhunter101 Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow No i wont change my mind about it my dad is in his mid 50's and he wont dare to use a crossbow and plus my dad doesnt care if he kills anymore deer he rather have his kids kill them and thats how i am going to be.I have a buddy of mine that is paralized and he still uses a compound bow he wont even use one when he is allowed to. He knows its just that much easier to take a deer with a crossbow then a compound. I like to give the deer a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow tell me jersey do you go to the gun forums and tell them that guns are to easy?good for you you hunt with a compound...it does not mean its the only right way to shoot a deer we all use what we are comfortable with and what we know what we can get a clean kill with thats what its all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jereseyhunter101 Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow No i dont because that is thier season maybe if they used fully automatic guns or something of that nature i would. And i am a gun hunter also. But im talking about bow hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoss Posted February 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow leo i for one still bow hunt becouse i enjoy it so much i do also hunt slug gun to becouse we cant hunt with rifels in Ill. but gun season is my fall back if i dont get a deer with a bow thats the way to put meat in the frezzer im a meat hunter anyway i have let a lot of young bucks go to take a doe thats how i feel i think x bows are a great tool and thats all they are no better no worse then other archery gear as long as you respect then and the laws i dont have a problem with it and popgun dont get upset about this post i have asked all three mods. in this room to delete it if it starts to get out of hand i was just seeing what everyone thinks on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jereseyhunter101 Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow I dont think its getting out of hand its just hunters stating thier opinions on what they prefer. Which should be allowed . Just as long there is no name calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow well i have to get back to work here...i will be back later because some how i know this is far from over...see ya...go pats kick the **** out of TO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jereseyhunter101 Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow Just to let you know i have no hard feelings for crossbow hunters just would rather use a regular bow myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoss Posted February 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow the personal attacks and name calling is what i was trying to avoid thats why i asked them to keep an eye on this becouse i do want to see your opinions wit no fighting and i also prefer a compond bow but as we get older i may have to use a xbow like popgun said i dont want to miss bow hunting just becouse age wont allow me to pull a compond bow anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popgun Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow jereseyhunter101, This thread can stay as clean as a whistle, but when you say only disabled persons should be using a crossbow, you are saying a lot more than just your own preferred way of hunting is with a compound. You in essence are saying that we all have to hunt your way or we are lazy. I think we each know, or should know, our own limitations. If someone no longer feels confident with a weapon they should move on to something else that will give them the confidence and ability to make a clean, humane kill. You say you would rather make a clean miss rather than have a wounded deer running through the woods. So would I. But how confident are you in knowing you will make a clean miss? "You know what", sometimes happens. If you want to sit in front of a television when you get old, and reminisce "about the good ol' days" with your grandchildren, instead of getting out there to hunt, so be it. I for one, will be out there trying my best until I am buried. .....popgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartonman Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow Here is Dartonmans opinion from the woods of Illinois...my govenor is a moron...BUT....I feel that alot of young and old men and women can benefit from the legalization of crossbows during archery season Oct 1-January 14?......except during gun season, and those counties that dont have a firearm season, due to expansion should really promote the crossbow for all our "urban" deer issues...folks, nothing says it nicer than to see a young person take a hunter safety course, and hunt ethically with a weapon he has become great at....I feel the crossbow would really do good in Illinois for the simple reason is they are getting outdoors, no shotgun slugs are flying over any heads, and they can hunt in a milder season in October to feed their families...will we have incidents involving wounded deer, heck yea.....but we already do, just like everyone else that has bowhunted, folks it happens...if I can see the young and old proficient with a crossbow, and thin the herd..kudos to them...it would be one of the only smart things that govenor of mine has ever done.....al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow Before the mods start going crazy here and deleting posts, here is my .02 and thats about all it is too .02 The question was "Thoughts on a Crossbow" . So therefore, I will answer that question. If you don't like it, keep it to yourself I think unless you are physically unable or over a certain age, I think it should not be allowed. Plain and simple. If your going to use a crossbow, you may as well use a rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow [ QUOTE ] jereseyhunter101, This thread can stay as clean as a whistle, but when you say only disabled persons should be using a crossbow, you are saying a lot more than just your own preferred way of hunting is with a compound. You in essence are saying that we all have to hunt your way or we are lazy. [/ QUOTE ] I DISAGREE POPGUN. See this is how it all starts. The question was, "Thought on Crossbows". Jerseyhunter just answered it, thats all. Now people are going to start getting on his case and probably mine now too and at the end, these mods will proably start pointing fingers at us because we said something that a few of you didn't want to here when in all seriousness, people like you are the ones starting the trouble because you didn't like ones opinion and are now coming back in the thread and stirring the pooper. Hey, I am all for arguing but some people cant handle it and the post ends up getting deleted because someones feelings got hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow They are legal for certain disabled people and for anyone that is 65 or older here. I honestly don't care if somebody uses a xbow or not. I don't think it should be an age dependant issue like it is in this state. 2 members in our hunting club (late 60's and early 70's) use them. I've practiced with them and I can out shoot both of them with a compound bow but not my recurve. As far as I'm concerned they could legalize xbows for anybody. They have limited range and the range of a compound bow is greater depending on the ability of the shooter. Let's face it, it doesn't matter if someone shoots a recurve, compound, or xbow, deer are wounded by all of them every year. That sort of argument against xbows just won't hold up against the facts. It wasn't that long ago when some traditional bowhunters were saying the same thing about compound bows when they came out with them. They called them string guns. Some still do. They were ridiculing bowhunters that used compounds back then for some of the same reasons that compound hunters ridicule xbow hunters these days. My, how these things come full circle eh? Many of you just weren't around as bowhunters back then to hear it. Whether you use a xbow, compound, or traditional bow we are all bowhunters. Some people need to learn to accept that and live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jereseyhunter101 Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Re: thoughts on crossbow I think unless you are physically unable or over a certain age, I think it should not be allowed. Plain and simple. If your going to use a crossbow, you may as well use a rifle. [/quote Thats excactly what i mean!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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