406" Deer, AT 2 YEARS OLD....WHAT ARE THEY FEEDING HIM

[Doc]

The farm that this buck is on is for hunting. There is website on the whole operation. They grow these massive bucks. Release them onto a fenced in area and then people pay money to get a crack at what ever class deer they would like.

A case of getting the best trophy that money can buy. That's kind of where everything in hunting is going, isn't it?

However, I'll bet that that particular buck is more valuable right now as stud service and fulfilling advertising activities. His time will come as they get bigger and better replacements.

Isn't it amazing what lengths and costs people will go just to have a manufactured freak hanging on the wall. Eventually they will be raising these things completely indoors with interveinous tubes and hoses hooked up until a hunter with the right amount of cash comes along and shoots him in his pen. That'll be the future of hunting. We've become so focused on antlers as being the sole purpose for deer hunting that it was only natural that entrepreneurs would start providing exactly what the public wants.

Doc

[Jorden]

We know the people who own that deer. They are friends of my dads, no joke. I went on their website, the deers name is Sudden Impact and yes, he is only two years old.

[Tom2008]

A case of getting the best trophy that money can buy. That's kind of where everything in hunting is going, isn't it?

However, I'll bet that that particular buck is more valuable right now as stud service and fulfilling advertising activities. His time will come as they get bigger and better replacements.

Isn't it amazing what lengths and costs people will go just to have a manufactured freak hanging on the wall. Eventually they will be raising these things completely indoors with interveinous tubes and hoses hooked up until a hunter with the right amount of cash comes along and shoots him in his pen. That'll be the future of hunting. We've become so focused on antlers as being the sole purpose for deer hunting that it was only natural that entrepreneurs would start providing exactly what the public wants.

Doc

I wouldn't exactly say everything in hunting. I've never heard of anyone on here going to do that kind of hunting? I've never heard of anyone on any forum going to do that kind of hunting. I've never met anyone that does that kind of hunting. Yes this kind of stuff happens, but no its not what hunting is turning into. I can't see it ever turning into that. I think you need to step back and take a deep breath, because honestly your last paragraph sounds kind of crazy to me. You are thinking way to much into it.

[Doc]

Tom-

That buck in that video clip would not exist if there were not big cash and adequate demand from hunters. Not only that, but there are a lot of ads in the backs of hunting magazines that are various levels of canned hunts, so don't be thinking that hunting has not already moved a long way in that direction. With the advent of DNA, genetic experimentation as well as successful animal cloning, I find it difficult to believe that this sort of thing will not continue to expand as more and more hunters begin to see an easy way to satisfy their egos and succumb to the current wave of "antlers at any cost".

As far as who we know that has attended some of the pay-to-hunt canned operations, somebody is keeping these outfits alive and well. I don't run in the "affluent" circles of society, so I really don't come in contact with a lot of those who have gone out and bought their trophy. I'm also quite sure that there are others who maybe are not all that proud that they had to resort to such tactics and simply don't talk about it. But the fact is that these places are proliferating and thriving.

When I say that that is what hunting will turn into, I am speaking of the public's perception of what hunting is. You may say that you don't care what the public's perception is, but I will point out that the very nature of hunting will be dictated by what the public thinks hunting is. New hunting recruits each year are influenced by what they think hunting is and what the purposes and rewards of hunting should be. They all enter hunting with pre-conceived notions of what it is all about and overall hunting attitudes evolve because of the expectations of new people entering the sport each year. Everytime I see hunters and the hunting media focusing so intently on antlers-only, almost to the point of excluding all other reasons for hunting, and now even to the point of creating massive antler producing animals, I am concerned that hunting is losing some of its perspective and that the wrong public messages are being sent. I know that there are many hunters who consider their hunts to be complete failures if the don't harvest 'book' bucks. I'm sure it is just a matter of time before these deer farmers are capable of filling that annually growing market demand. Our TV stations and hunting magazines are going right along with this trend and promoting this antler-itis that is pushing the public to demand more and more opportunities to harvest record bucks.

I think that anyone who thinks these "buckinsteins" are a good thing, should really take a look at why they think so and spend a little time considering the rammifications of this kind of science in the name of hunting. We could all use a little proactive thinking and even speculation on where some of these trends in hunting are leading us. We certainly needn't go out of our way criticizing those who do.

Doc

[stcif]

I think stuff like this is messing up hunting period!! Too much antler illness is not a good thing.

[NS whitetail]

I have seen that before and I think that it is sick to do that to an animal

[MichiganHunter]

Actually, I don't think he is a "pet". That pretty much looks like a deer farm where genetics, diet, and DNA are controlled and manipulated for some very lucrative results. The first financial gain that I see them getting from all this is the pile of ads from food-plot seed marketers. I would suppose that another source of income from this manufactured freak would be stud fees so that other deer farmers can tap into his genetics. And why would so many business people spend good cash on something like this? ........ Well, it is obvious that the fantasy of shooting such an animal is a big advertising draw. So while this animal will never be shot, the purpose of investing so much time, money, and science into such a thing is still based on the trophyism that runs rampant through deer hunting. The idea of "A trophy at any cost" is what drives this result. Will such an animal ever be huntable? ......... You bet. When hunting preserves can buy similar freaks, and for the right price offer him to wealthy "hunters" who just want to have the biggest rack hanging on their wall that money can buy, they will be made available for hunting.

I don't know whether anyone noticed the other mega-bucks that were in the background, but it sure was obvious that the owners of this buck have something going on there that provides some freakish looking racks that would be very desireable for stocking high-end shooting preserves. No, it isn't a pet. It is an investment that is worth a lot of dollars.

Doc

.............i realize it's not a pet but i cant see making an animal like that for my self to hunt.....i know they are going to sell it to the highest bidder, but what ever. Any person hunting regardless of where or how they hunt as long as the legality of it it there I dont care much, anyone hunting on a high fence property KNOW"S and any one who see's that animal KNOW'S it's less of a trophy. I dont want to see animals like this being compared to animals that we "THE REAL HUNTERS" get but if some rich lawyer wants to drop 20 g's on a hunt and doing that makes him vote for pro hunting bills thats a bonus for us. BUT either way if you suport high fence hunting or disaprove of it either way this deer is a true monster and though it has a great amount of genentic/human influnce it's cool to see.

[Doc]

.............i realize it's not a pet but i cant see making an animal like that for my self to hunt.....i know they are going to sell it to the highest bidder, but what ever. Any person hunting regardless of where or how they hunt as long as the legality of it it there I dont care much, anyone hunting on a high fence property KNOW"S and any one who see's that animal KNOW'S it's less of a trophy. I dont want to see animals like this being compared to animals that we "THE REAL HUNTERS" get but if some rich lawyer wants to drop 20 g's on a hunt and doing that makes him vote for pro hunting bills thats a bonus for us. BUT either way if you suport high fence hunting or disaprove of it either way this deer is a true monster and though it has a great amount of genentic/human influnce it's cool to see.

The problem is that as this kind of nonsense grows in popularity and acceptance, the sport of hunting begins to take on the identity of that kind of activity. That sort of thing begins to taint the perceptions of hunting to the point where John Q. Public begins to identify all hunters with that kind of thing. Personally, I think too highly of my hunting activities and attitudes to ever want anyone confusing what I do with what that "rich lawyer" does.

Doc

[jared264mag]

Yeah, it's kind of like looking at a two headed calf. Freakish enough so you can't look away, but not really something you would really ever want to own. Basically a waste of time money, effort and research.

Doc

I agree I mean I am all for bigger and better bucks but thats just crazy and not even natural.

[Ethan Givan]

Thats not a Real Deer, its just a manufactured one. I think its rediculous to attempt to make deer like that. Its not natural at all.

[swampbuckva]

Great video its crazy what a set of antlers will do with no pressure and plenty of protein. I bet his neck muscles are insane.

[12-point]

great deer but here in kentucky its too thick for something like that to make it around.