Rhino Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Got the following email from a guy working with Catch-A-Dream Foundation. I wanted to give ya'll some disturbing information on our wonderful pesident. I work with the Catch-A-Dream Foundation which provides hunting and fishing trips to childen with life-threatening illnesses. It is a great program needless to say. This past weekend we had our annual banquet/fundraiser event in Starkville. As part of the program, we had scheduled Sgt. 1st Class Greg Stube, a highly decorated U.S. Army Green Beret and inspirational speaker who was severely injured while deployed overseas and didn't have much of a chance for survival. Greg is stationed at Ft. Bragg and received permission from his commanding officer to come speak at our function. Everything was on go until Obama made a policy that NO U.S. SERVICEMAN CAN SPEAK AT ANY FAITH-BASED PUBLIC EVENTS ANYMORE. Needless to say, Greg had to cancel his speaking event with us. Didn't know if anyone else was aware of this new policy. Wonder what kind of news we all will receive next? Sure makes you wonder what BHO is up to with these sort of policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Sure makes you wonder what BHO is up to with these sort of policies. It will be ugly when we have to take OUR country back:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 :eek: YOU'RE KIDDING ME!!!! :mad: That's it! BHO has gone too far now! :mad: Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layin on the smackdown Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I will never understand this mans thought process:mad:.....what a shame....i did't think it was possible for one human being to screw this many things up in such a short amount of time....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Everything was on go until Obama made a policy that NO U.S. SERVICEMAN CAN SPEAK AT ANY FAITH-BASED PUBLIC EVENTS ANYMORE. Needless to say, Greg had to cancel his speaking event with us. Didn't know if anyone else was aware of this new policy. Wonder what kind of news we all will receive next? Sure makes you wonder what BHO is up to with these sort of policies. Going to have to do some checking on this. Have not heard anything about it until now. If true, seems that would be a clear a violation of our right to free speech even with the speaker being a soldier. And if true it would be unconstitutional, I don't believe that Obama has the authority without congress to enact such a policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Obama not responsible for this....read below After doing a little research on this topic, appears that this may not be true, or at least not completely true anyway. There was policy set in place in 1997 that put forth that servicemen and women could not speak at faith based public events while in uniform http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/ethics_issues/GUIDANCE.HTM, apparently this policy had not been enforced in the past and likely would not have been enforced in this case either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 All I can tell you about it is I have ALL of the guys contact information that wrote the email William. Sure seems like this was his understanding of the reason for cancellation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I am not saying the cancellation or the reason for it being related to this policy is not true Al, this policy just being created by Obama since he has been president however is simply not true. The policy that supposedly pertains to this has been in place since 1997(Clinton admin.), you can look at the link for the dept of defense above. There are only two exceptions under which a DoD employee could be associated with a fundraising event in her official capacity. First, under 5 C.F.R. § 2635.808(a)(2), an employee may merely attend a fundraising event as long as the organization does not use the fact of her attendance to promote the event. Second, under 5 C.F.R. § 2635.808(a)(2) & (3), an employee may deliver an official speech, which is one given in an official capacity on a subject matter that relates to her official duties. This may include the employee's own official duties; the responsibilities, programs, or operations of the agency; or matters of Administration policy on which the employee is authorized to speak. The employee may not request donations or any other support for the organization. Further, the employee's agency must first determine that the event provides an appropriate forum for the dissemination of the information. ............................................................ The speech and its preparation may not interfere with the performance of official duties or detract from readiness. DoD community relations or other legitimate DoD public affairs interests must be served by the speech. These include increasing understanding of U.S. defense posture and capabilities, fostering and sustaining good relations with elements of the public, increasing public awareness and understanding of the Military Services, and supporting the personnel recruiting of the Services. The event must also be of interest and benefit to the local civilian community as well as DoD. The organization and the event must be appropriate for association with DoD and the speech. For example, nonpartisan events open to the public are usually of common interest and benefit to the general public. Events attended only by invitation, however, may be considered only where a broad cross section of the community is represented, such as an annual convention of an association, or where the organization is particularly connected with the DoD. If 3 organizations have a narrow membership base or interest, the DoD support must benefit the community, not the sponsoring organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 It will be ugly when we have to take OUR country back:mad: it won't be so bad. their side is unarmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceArcher Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Good fact check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 it won't be so bad. their side is unarmed. Yes, this is a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Good fact check. And look who rears his ugly head! Hey Ace, where ya been on all the other threads where you've been asked to defend certain "changes" YOUR good president has made, after saying he wouldn't? Guess your one of those that only post when convenient to YOUR point of view:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike13candace Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Too bad for the confusion... The ones that get hurt are all of us... This country has so many laws and or policies..... we need to get back to basic thinking.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I just love you guys! The issues behind some of the threads here are no joking matter, but the banter posted in reply can really get me laughing. I know something like 90% of the people here have it in for Obama and that's just the way it's going to be. I can't blame Ace or any Obama supporter for not responding to all the posts because anything in the mans defense has to be researched and verifiable or the poster will be crucified. A lot of times things just can't be verified so there will always be speculation. In addition take a look at the document William linked to. It would take me an hour to figure that thing out! BTW.. From previous posts I gather William is not an Obama supporter which gains him a lot of respect and credibility in my book for making his post. Now when/if he does have something negative to say about Obama he'll have my attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popgun Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/faithbased.asp ....popgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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