slugshooter Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War [ QUOTE ] Now for those who say Bush started this War. If you know any thing about our government you will know that the President can not declare war with out the consent and backing of the US Congress. Correct! Which party controled the Congress and Senate at the time this war was started. DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!! So lets be honest here, the democrats are the ones who really started this war. Because they voted for it. I can't help it that they keep changing thier minds. TAKE A STAND! 2 more of my cents! [/ QUOTE ] Actually, war has never been declared, thus, this isn't really a war, but starting headlines with the War in Iraq and War on Terrorism is shorter and much easier to say than Police Action to remove the threat of terrorism or Conflict to remove Saddam Hussein and instill democracy in Mesopotamia. Also, if you know anything about politics you would know that the Republicans have controlled congress since the Clinton era except for a little short bit of time early in 2001 in Bush's term when Jim Jeffords became an Independent which shifted control of the Senate to the Democrats for the first time since the 90's, the House was still controlled by the Republicans then in 2002 Republicans regained control of the Senate so for the first time in 50 years the Republicans controlled the Presidency and Congress, when was the authorization to use force in Iraq passed, October 2002, Senate was controlled by Democrats, House by Republicans. So, it's both of their faults. Here's a link so you can see for yourself. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HJ00114: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War [ QUOTE ] Typical Marine always spewing put garbage [ QUOTE ] Especially my fellow Marines while I was in Iraq Insanity get's you medals [/ QUOTE ] your an idiot insanity gets you killed [/ QUOTE ] You know it's one thing to joke around in here like a few of us do with the bashing other services and what not but to come in here and be stupid is another. Your comments obvisouly show how stupid you really are now don't they Well I could be ignorant like you but then again, I consider the source. All I can say is you guys need us in the fight. Take a look at history there buttercup, you guys couldn't handle the fight without us in there protecting your *** like in Nasariyah March 03....or did you forget about that battle. I remember real well. They pushed you guys back and we marched on and secured the city. Enough said !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War [ QUOTE ] Typical Marine always spewing put garbage [ QUOTE ] Especially my fellow Marines while I was in Iraq Insanity get's you medals [/ QUOTE ] your an idiot insanity gets you killed [/ QUOTE ] What an ignorant statement, let me guess, your a darn desk jockey huh? I am with TSBH, we give each other a good ribbing because of the different services we are/were in, but to say some stuff like that is pure ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7th Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War What a great post, I have tryed this with my sons but not to that point and it works. What gets me is looking at the news, one would think that we have lost this war and no one is willing to fight to win it. I see it every day, the men and women that are coming home or going back over. They all seem to have a air of pride beaming form them in knowing that they are doing a job that HAS to be done. They know what they face and yet they go to it with no hesitation. I wish the news would show what is going on in the other 90% of Iraq and 95% of the people of Iraq, that would shock most of the people of the US from what the news shows. I am proud to be back in uniform again and I feel that it was a strong enough resone to come back after being out 18 years. I have 4 sons and feel it is my honor to be here to do my part to keep the world safe for them. I don't have to agree with how you feel about this but I put my uniform on to protect your right to feel this way and will do so, just remember not to try to push your way on me. Just remember that the freedome that you have here was paid for with the BLOOD of them that stood up for us before and will be paid for with the Blood of others that will put the uniform on after us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War Good post 7th, good post!!! Check out that casualty thread in the lounge. There have been quite a few Army National Guard paying the ultimate sacrifice in this war. You guys are in the fight just as much as any Active Duty unit over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War Maybe I am the only one the verses (only 8 of them) work on so much about the war, but if you get a chance, read Psalms 82. Yes, there are only 8 verses in it and it struck me as to exactly we (The US) goes to war like we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7th Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War Norm, That is one way to look at the way that the we try to do things in this world. I would say that the Curds and Sheiets could be called the poor and fatherless and we are there to Deliver them from the wicked. Funny thing, with all the time I have at work, I read the Bible more now then ever. It helps alot when I am so far from my family. Last night I just got to the start of the book of Job and will be starting Psalms soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War Jim Jeffords...Now theres a guy you want on your ship!!.....ooooops he jumped off! Glad our troops have convictions..and stick with it! Where are the cry babies that said we went to war for ..OIL...????? Guess they were wrong ey?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War Didn't hurt my feelings at all. Matter of fact, they have these INSTANT GRAEMLINS in here that you can use on your posts. Yeah, I had the grin face next to the post I made about the insanity. They are there for a reason. Now back to the hurt feelings. Like I said, my feelings weren't hurt at all. We just try to keep this site clean without any personal jabs. I do not know you therefore I do not know how to take your comments. Had it been someone else like Gator, I would of just brushed it off. See had you used the Instant Graemlin grin face, it would of been a different story. BTW, next time you type the word "marine", can you capitalize it "Marine". Thanks and keep your head down and stay safe and come home soon. Oh yeah, stay cool too cause it is soon going to get hot over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War "Insanity gets you medals" Although I'm sure Mike didn't mean that in a broad sense, I think there may be a little truth in there too. I've been around long enough to see a few hero's in my life via the news, TV programs, etc and when you witness some of the things these folks have done, in the heat of the moment, for their fellow human beings, You can't help but sit back sometimes and say...wow, he/she has to be nuts to do that or even attempt to do that , under the circumstances at the time. Then of course when it's all over, lives have been saved, and that guy/gal that pulled off that crazy rescue (that could be interpreted as insane at the time) or what ever with no concern what-so-ever for his/her own safety. you come to realize, that it wasn't insanity after all, but a unselfish, brave, courageous moment in time, that goes beyond our perception of insanity or crazy or what ever you want to call it. My hat is off to Hero's period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War I just want to say that no matter what branch of military you are in...I thank you. It's never a "good" thing to go to war, but Iraq has had this coming for a long long time. After seeing that stupid video of the beheadings of those innocent people ( and recently they found the bodies of beheaded children)...I don't think we should show ANY mercy whatsoever. Actually, a bullet is too good for those murderers. An eye for eye, I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War Chuckem, personally I think insanity, bravery, and courage go just a little bit hand in hand. You got to be just a little of both! 1ID, I though they moved to Germany? Or are you in a brigade that was left in the states? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War No harm no foul!!! Just kepp your head down, and come home safe. Big Red One is coming back to Ft Riley, now that right there makes alot of sense, since what was it 6-8 years ago they moved 3ID to Ft Stewart, and Moved 1ID to Germany. Is there gonna be any Infantry Division left in Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War [ QUOTE ] but i talk alot of crap [/ QUOTE ] YOU ...you must not know me then Just come home safe man. I made a post in the Lounge paying tribute to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. I would like to end it as soon as I can and the only way to make that happen is to bring you boys (and myself) back home. I been there in 2003 for the initial wave and then went back in '04 for a few months. I am ready to end this thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War [ QUOTE ] You're right, instead they should tell them something like this. You look out the window and see our neighbor, who you're pretending is Saddam come home with a box full of chocolates for his wife and kids. He then hands each $1000 and tells them to spend it on whatever they want. After that he goes to the old lady across the street and does the same thing for her. But you are the evil president Bush and you see his chocolate and you want it. So you first call the police and ask them to arrest Saddam and give you his chocolates. But Mrs. France (note the Mrs. ) the chief of police tells you, you have no right to do this. So in blatent disregard for the police's authority you burn down his house. Then you purposely target his innocent children. You capture him and put him on trial for things he definately did not do, since he's such a nice man. Fortunately there's a wonderful man running against you that will instantly restore peace to the world by reconciling with Mrs. France and the police department. He's for, against, partially for,completely for, and totaly against taking out your neighbor but he's much better then you because offers your country a new direction. He has yet to say what direction that is but it will probably be this way><. But he's the best. Honestly, sometimes slugshooter, I think this is how you and the democrats view things. [/ QUOTE ] That would be funny if it weren't so true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War [ QUOTE ] If the reason we went to Iraq is to stop Hussein's brutal dictatorship then why are we sitting back and allowing dictators in Rwanda, Haiti, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Albania and even Israel in relation to their treatment of Palestinians? Where is the moral outrage at the treatment of these countries' citizens? Revisionist history is fun but at its heart it is misleading at best and a load of crap at worst. [/ QUOTE ] Aparently you have forgoten a few things... 1950s-Korean War....we tried! Israel has never started a war with palestine and has ended every war the palestinians started once they were secure again when they easily could have taken over the entire palestinian nation not to mentoin Egypt and the entire Arab world... As for many of the others we must prioritize..we cant take every one of them at once...Sadam showed in the past that he was willing to invade his neighbors and slaughter his own people. Yes we suspected he had WMD's...maybe they still do. We may never know. But trust me...or ask any of the soldiers that have been(I know many but am not one of them)...they caused plenty of mass destruction with the weapons they do have. The primary error a Bush may have made was Bush Sr not mopping Sadam up the first go round... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BuckMaster058 Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War That was one of the best posts on here by far. It sure choked me up. That is why I want to say thank you to the men and women that fight for us everyday. And lets hope they return safe and soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherneck Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War I just got around to reading this, and I have to say that it was outstanding. Thank you so much for shareing it with us. Semper Fi. Cpl. schweitzer U.S.M.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWC Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War ?was it not the U.S who put saddam in power during the(cold war with russia) and the IRAN/IRAQ war in the 70,s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War yewbowman ...you have no right to comment on this thread. You don't vote, remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War [ QUOTE ] One need not be a member of a political party, in order to point out evil. [/ QUOTE ] Hey, sorta sounds like one of those "Forsake the Troops" guys if you ask me. I hope not for his sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning_gold_12 Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Re: Why We Are At War first let me say that post is the greatest explaination i have ever heard. second, if any of you armed forces guys and gals, past present or future, thank you from the bottom of my heart. i love you and deeply respect you for what you do, and you are constantly in my prayers. lastly, a little reminder...... please, never forget..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: Why We Are At War [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Typical Marine always spewing put garbage [ QUOTE ] Especially my fellow Marines while I was in Iraq Insanity get's you medals [/ QUOTE ] your an idiot insanity gets you killed [/ QUOTE ] What an ignorant statement, let me guess, your a darn desk jockey huh? I am with TSBH, we give each other a good ribbing because of the different services we are/were in, but to say some stuff like that is pure ignorant. [/ QUOTE ] I may not have any room to say anything but even desk jockeys get the job done. Without them no one would get to or from the assigned stations. I still appreciate anyone that serves or has served or is going to serve. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longknife Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Re: Why We Are At War I LOVE THE LETTER and Boys if the troops feel they are in the right then i will stand behind them if they feel its wrong then stand behind i will, it's not for us to decide if the war is right or wrong we are not the ones who are getting fired at or DYEING.Why don't you explain these views to the one's that are coming home in flagged drapped boxe's if they are right or wrong.They died with HONOR not hiding behind what'ifs or why's.My brother was was over there and spent a year asking to make it home alive and did not ask once what the reason was they were doing in that GOD for saken crap hole.He watched as two of his friends got hit right beside him.So to whom ever wants to speak out agianst the WAR read this and then wonder how you can explain your views to the HONORED DEAD OR INJURED.They gave, while you complained.Hey your still able to hunt and fish ARE THEY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: Why We Are At War Great Post. God bless america Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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