redkneck Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I'm sure yall saw the 72 year old woman that got tasered. Dont know she should have got the standard procedure or not, but she was sure out of line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Wow.... This vid was very short. I'd like to see thw whole incident. But really, how dangerous can a 72 year old woman be? I mean she didn't have a gun...Gotta be more to the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I agree. I didnt see the whole thing. But when i was watching the news tonight, it looked like she was shoving and cussing the guy. If anyone finds a link for the whole thing, drop it in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 More of the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTINGMAN Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I seen this on the news to,she was out of line but I dont think she should have been tazered.What if the shock from it caused her heart to stop or some other health problem,the cop would have felt realy bad then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 He warned her 9 times for goodness sake. Just because she's elderly doesn't mean she is above the law and doesn't have to cooperate with the officer. I bet she learned something from it...LOL:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungry hunter Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Tazers DO NOT effect the heart. Yes in my book alittle too much or wait for a back up officer. But the officer did what he had to do. Do what a police officer or deputy tells ya and move along with a ticket or warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Regardless of what force was used, people will whine it was too much simply due to the size of the officer over the woman. He did the right thing and the old bitty learned her lesson I'm sure. That tazer is an AWESOME tool for our peace officers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 He warned her 9 times for goodness sake. Just because she's elderly doesn't mean she is above the law and doesn't have to cooperate with the officer. I bet she learned something from it...LOL:rolleyes: Regardless of what force was used, people will whine it was too much simply due to the size of the officer over the woman. He did the right thing and the old bitty learned her lesson I'm sure. That tazer is an AWESOME tool for our peace officers. Ditto and ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I did not watch the clips, but did hear a little on this on the news. From what I was able to hear, the old woman was asking to be tazered. Maybe she did learn a lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS whitetail Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 He warned her 9 times for goodness sake. Just because she's elderly doesn't mean she is above the law and doesn't have to cooperate with the officer. I bet she learned something from it...LOL:rolleyes: Regardless of what force was used, people will whine it was too much simply due to the size of the officer over the woman. He did the right thing and the old bitty learned her lesson I'm sure. That tazer is an AWESOME tool for our peace officers. Ditto and ditto. ditto and ditto and ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 But the real sad part of the story is that she'll probably get a fat check from the city. She's already hired an attorney, I hope they dont settle out of court to make it go away. She was asking for it, I guess she just wanted to argue out in the highway about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Here's my take on it. If my initial perception is flawed then the whole idea I have is no good. I thought that the original purpose of a tazer was to avoid the use of a gun in situations where a gun might be required to subdue a subject wether it be a human or an animal. I really don't see why the officer had to use the tazer in this situation. Being a big guy myself, I would have thought that hand to hand would have not only looked better but also been more effective to just cuff her and stick her in the back of the car. I mean compare the two. An officer is shown wrestling and trying to physically subdue a violent and beligerent 72 year old woman. OR... Officer on film tazering a violent and beligerent 72 year old woman. Trust me when I say that anybody here thinking I don't know what I'm talking about needs to remember I worked in a hospital for 4 years as a security guard. I have been in these situations and a lot of times by myself. I've dealt with 300 lb schitzo's covered in their own feces. I've had to help strap down the 110 lb meth head that feels no pain. And yes I've seen the tazers used in a lot of situations where I know it was required. I don't care how beligerent this woman was, tazering was not required from my pov. If she was that bad, then he should have just cuffed her and then dealt with her when and if she resisted that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Should he have used it?.........maybe not, surely he could have easily manhandled the lady. But one thing is for sure......she'll think twice about pushing and cussing a cop next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Swampy you around? What's your take on it? I believe the taser to be a great addition for our police, but I would rather have seen the old lady handcuffed and arrested, rather than tasered. I'm sure the incidence is low, but sending an electrical current through the heart has the possibility of inducing ventricular fibrillation leading to death even if the energy is a low amount. A couple quick Googles. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0730taser30.html http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080521/taser_doctor_080521/20080521?hub=Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 surely he could have easily manhandled the lady. Yep but that sure would have looked a lot worse on camera and the risk of her getting hurt would have been a lot worse. Sounded like he tried his best to warn her but she wouldn't listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Swampy you around? What's your take on it? Fly, you are fairly new around here so just a heads up. Swampy does not like cop bashing theads and usually avoids them. So please do not call him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Yep but that sure would have looked a lot worse on camera and the risk of her getting hurt would have been a lot worse. Sounded like he tried his best to warn her but she wouldn't listen. Don't get me wrong here. When I say "manhandle" I'm not saying throw her around like a rag doll. He could have put the cuffs on the old lady with ease, but evidently he did what he thought was best. Can't blame a guy for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 The concept behind tasers, OC and other less-than-lethal devices are to avoid the use of physical contact or force which oftentimes results in injuries to the person, the officer, or both. In fact, most department's use of force continuum policies require they be employed before the use of physical contact. That is probably why the department is backing the officer. And, just because the person is elderly doesn't mean they can't ramp up the danger to both themselves and the officer. Does it look bad? Yeah. Was it necessary? She was resisting arrest and the officer tried a number of times to use voice command to obtain compliance. She made her decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Fly, you are fairly new around here so just a heads up. Swampy does not like cop bashing theads and usually avoids them. So please do not call him out. I don't see how this is "cop bashing." It's a simple question for someone who has a very good background for this opinion. No bashing that I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I was an officer for a year, and the taser is a disabling tool. It's safer than OC and more effective, it's a lot safer that an asp as well. Agreed the lil lady could have easily been slung down on the ground, he could have set on her, cuffed and end of the story. Still people would whine he could have used even less force. People love to bash cops and question their use of force, but they sure appreciate it when they are saving their lives. Lemme ask you this....what happens when the officer uses an arm bar to place the lady against the hood of his car face first and her rotator cuff snaps? This was a lose lose situation for the cop simply cause this was a little old lady. I'm sure he wishes he would have just let her go now to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhunter39 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 she definitely got the shock of her life , next time she'll choose her words more wisely , he did restrain from using the taser for a while before using it for their own protection . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Would have been classic if she yelled, "Don't taze me bro!" right before she went down...... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I don't care how beligerent this woman was, tazering was not required from my pov. If she was that bad, then he should have just cuffed her and then dealt with her when and if she resisted that. You know, in hindsight, I see your point. Another thought though, LOL, I could see me trying to wrassle and cuff a 72 year old woman. It would have been like wrasslin' with my little brother when I was a kid. Half the time I was laughing so hard I lost all strength and just turtled on him while he wailed on me. I could easily see that happening if I ever find myself in a fight with a grandma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Would have been classic if she yelled, "Don't taze me bro!" right before she went down...... :D LMAO--OMG that's funny. Who said that? Wasn't that some sports figure or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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