redkneck Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Took me less than a minute to type that. :smoke: I literally laughed water up my nose on that one! btw..... I'm a world class freakin idiot, but you dont see me going around gloating about it and rubbing it in on everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 :sleep1::sleep1::sleep1: I was gonna try my hand at being a writer at one point but I had too many pictures that said things better than I could put to print. Wanted to be a guide as well to get payed to do what I love. At the end of the day sharing the outdoors with others around me was payment enough. My research project on natures critters native to the area has been ongoing for about 20+ years now. I try not to force feed anyone the information gained in that time unless asked upon. Basically TR, as I've seen you do over and over again on other forums, quit preaching the gospel(your book), and get involved in a few threads that you didn't start on topics you claim to know so much about. We are not little birds here that need this regurgitated information stuffed down our beaks untill all we know to chirp is the TR way. Rest assured there are many here that will listen closer to hands on trial and error experience afield through discussion over something they read in a dang book by a self proclaimed proffesor of the wild. I said that not you, only because that's the way you come across. We'll all be STUDENTS of the wild till the day we die never understanding it all completely. Best we can hope for is to be the best STEWARDS of the lands as we possably can so next time you find yourself gazing out that window at that lonely doe, realize that there are many of us out there who do the same... just never felt the need to make a mountain out of a mole hill in the middle of June. You need to extend your research bro. 10 yrs aint squat when it comes to general observations.Let me tell you something. I've been to a shrink a few times and gathered a lot of valuable information from them BUT, when I got home I was still a stinky plumber. Chew on that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 :sleep1::sleep1::sleep1: I was gonna try my hand at being a writer at one point but I had too many pictures that said things better than I could put to print. Wanted to be a guide as well to get payed to do what I love. At the end of the day sharing the outdoors with others around me was payment enough. My research project on natures critters native to the area has been ongoing for about 20+ years now. I try not to force feed anyone the information gained in that time unless asked upon. Basically TR, as I've seen you do over and over again on other forums, quit preaching the gospel(your book), and get involved in a few threads that you didn't start on topics you claim to know so much about. We are not little birds here that need this regurgitated information stuffed down our beaks untill all we know to chirp is the TR way. Rest assured there are many here that will listen closer to hands on trial and error experience afield through discussion over something they read in a dang book by a self proclaimed proffesor of the wild. I said that not you, only because that's the way you come across. We'll all be STUDENTS of the wild till the day we die never understanding it all completely. Best we can hope for is to be the best STEWARDS of the lands as we possably can so next time you find yourself gazing out that window at that lonely doe, realize that there are many of us out there who do the same... just never felt the need to make a mountain out of a mole hill in the middle of June. You need to extend your research bro. 10 yrs aint squat when it comes to general observations.Let me tell you something. I've been to a shrink a few times and gathered a lot of valuable information from them BUT, when I got home I was still a stinky plumber. Chew on that! A little harsh perhaps, but spot on Wooly! :gun2: Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 We'll all be STUDENTS of the wild till the day we die never understanding it all completely. Best we can hope for is to be the best STEWARDS of the lands as we possably can so next time you find yourself gazing out that window at that lonely doe, realize that there are many of us out there who do the same... just never felt the need to make a mountain out of a mole hill in the middle of June. Beautifully stated Mr Bear.:clap: I've studied my wife for 20 years and I still couldn't write a memo on her, let alone a whole book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 To be perfectly honest TR in my honest opinion the moon's affect on deer movement is minor by comparision to other factors such as weather, hunting pressure, rutting activity, etc. Granted, the only time I make any comparison when it comes to deer movement & moon phase is when it really matters...during open hunting seasons. I keep a detailed hunting journal that includes moon phase, detailed weather conditions, when I see deer, what they were doing, where they came from, and where they went. I understand where other forum members are coming from. Maybe if your post were more concise they would be better received. Also, sharing you knowledge with other hunter's post pertaining to questions and issues where you've done so much research would help too. I've been deer hunting since I was 14 and I'm 55 now. As an avid deer hunter I also study deer at length and spend more time in a deer stand each year than many deer hunters spend in a lifetime. I've had the luxury of being able to spend that much time in the deer woods since 1994. Before that I was a weekend and vacation time hunter like most are here. I spend a lot of time in the offseason scouting & preparing for the coming season too. That's my background as a deer hunter. I don't consider myself an expert (never will) and certainly don't try to portray myself as such. I feel like I learn something new every year. I try to help other hunters here from my own observations and experiences when questions or help is requested. I've never writen a book simply because I don't care to. My hat's off to you with that. It requires a dedicated soul and a lot of time. I'd rather spend that time in the woods doing what I enjoy. I'm very content being just another John Doe deer hunter. One good friend of mine, who's now in his mid 60's has written 3 books and numerous hunting magazine articles over the years. In the off season he's on the road some (not like he used to though) conducting siminars at shows. Being a close friend of mine I probably respect his opinion more than any other deer hunter. He also respects mine. He shares my opionion about Astro Tables. He used to bug me about writing a book on turkey hunting before he finally gave up a few years back. Writing is just not my thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 TR, it's quite simple my man. Join these forums to become part of our family. Join in on threads already in progress, wish someone a happy birthday, call some guy a dumb butt.....but please stop peddling all these articles. You've been told numerous times it is not appreciated. This isn't deer school, this is the realtree.com family forums. If ya can't accept that, then you have 36 other forums to paste your book on til they get fed up as well. Consider this your warning..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 To be perfectly honest TR in my honest opinion the moon's affect on deer movement is minor by comparision to other factors such as weather, hunting pressure, rutting activity, etc. Granted, the only time I make any comparison when it comes to deer movement & moon phase is when it really matters...during open hunting seasons. I keep a detailed hunting journal that includes moon phase, detailed weather conditions, when I see deer, what they were doing, where they came from, and where they went. I understand where other forum members are coming from. Maybe if your post were more concise they would be better received. Also, sharing you knowledge with other hunter's post pertaining to questions and issues where you've done so much research would help too. I've been deer hunting since I was 14 and I'm 55 now. As an avid deer hunter I also study deer at length and spend more time in a deer stand each year than many deer hunters spend in a lifetime. I've had the luxury of being able to spend that much time in the deer woods since 1994. Before that I was a weekend and vacation time hunter like most are here. I spend a lot of time in the offseason scouting & preparing for the coming season too. That's my background as a deer hunter. I don't consider myself an expert (never will) and certainly don't try to portray myself as such. I feel like I learn something new every year. I try to help other hunters here from my own observations and experiences when questions or help is requested. I've never writen a book simply because I don't care to. My hat's off to you with that. It requires a dedicated soul and a lot of time. I'd rather spend that time in the woods doing what I enjoy. I'm very content being just another John Doe deer hunter. One good friend of mine, who's now in his mid 60's has written 3 books and numerous hunting magazine articles over the years. In the off season he's on the road some (not like he used to though) conducting siminars at shows. Being a close friend of mine I probably respect his opinion more than any other deer hunter. He also respects mine. He shares my opionion about Astro Tables. He used to bug me about writing a book on turkey hunting before he finally gave up a few years back. Writing is just not my thing. Well said, Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 TR, it's quite simple my man. Join these forums to become part of our family. Join in on threads already in progress, wish someone a happy birthday, call some guy a dumb butt.....but please stop peddling all these articles. You've been told numerous times it is not appreciated. This isn't deer school, this is the realtree.com family forums. If ya can't accept that, then you have 36 other forums to paste your book on til they get fed up as well. Consider this your warning..... Short, precise and straight to the heart of the matter, Kyle. Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 I think this forum is blessed to have guys with a lifetime of experience they like to share with us. Guys that haven't written a book, or maybe some have (my hat's off to you if you have). I'm glad to have a great place to come to learn, BS, and just share outdoor experiences with some great folks. btw... Did someone call me a DB Kyle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt or be Hunted Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 I think this forum is blessed to have guys with a lifetime of experience they like to share with us. Guys that haven't written a book, or maybe some have (my hat's off to you if you have). I'm glad to have a great place to come to learn, BS, and just share outdoor experiences with some great folks. i could have not said it better myself:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMichels Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Very well said all of you. But, I'll continue as I have been, hoping you realize, that as a student of animal behavior, I'm just trying to share what I have learnned. Maybe the difference betwen me an other is that I've devoted 10 years to deer research (not hunting), 4 years to turkey research (not hunting), 4 years to elk research (not hunting), and 4 years to duck and goose research (not hunting). While I do research I do not hunt, so I can pay attention to everything that is going on, and I take into account every concievable meteorological condition (that might affect the animals), so that I can learn when and where to expect to see them, on a fairly regular basis, under the wetehr conditons that day. And, the weather conditions are one of the most relevenat factors when it comes to predicting animal activity. I don't carry a weapon (so I don't have to worry about how to kill the animal), I just take notes on over 4000 deer sightings, I'm not sure how many turkey sightings (nore than deer), and the activities of over 1500 elk. Either I learned something from that or I didn't. I've seen this reaction on other talk forums, and once members figure out what I do and why, most of them enjoy it, and I've become friends with many of them as a result of it. If people here are different from other forums, and can't accept me for who I am, and what I do, so be it. As I said, I don't have time to sit and just chat. I do have time to post my articles, listen to comments on them, and answer questions about what I write - especially if I can help someone else. This, with my limited capabilities to work and enjoy life, is what I do. Help others. If you can't see past your preconcieved ideas or me, and don't think I've learned anything, and don't think I am able to help you, then don't log on to my threads. May God bless all of you, T.R. PS There is alot to learned from this thread, because this deer is teaching me a lot, and reminding me of a lot of things - that can make people better able to understand deer, which could make them better hunters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 have it your way.......you were warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMichels Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Since the administrator has told me to either "be here to become friends"(sit and chat), or else - I'll bow out. God bless, T.R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Very well said all of you. But, I'll continue as I have been, hoping you realize, that as a student of animal behavior, I'm just trying to share what I have learnned. Maybe the difference betwen me an other is that I've devoted 10 years to deer research (not hunting), 4 years to turkey research (not hunting), 4 years to elk research (not hunting), and 4 years to duck and goose research (not hunting). While I do research I do not hunt, so I can pay attention to everything that is going on, and I take into account every concievable meteorological condition (that might affect the animals), so that I can learn when and where to expect to see them, on a fairly regular basis, under the wetehr conditons that day. And, the weather conditions are one of the most relevenat factors when it comes to predicting animal activity. I don't carry a weapon (so I don't have to worry about how to kill the animal), I just take notes on over 4000 deer sightings, I'm not sure how many turkey sightings (nore than deer), and the activities of over 1500 elk. Either I learned something from that or I didn't. I've seen this reaction on other talk forums, and once members figure out what I do and why, most of them enjoy it, and I've become friends with many of them as a result of it. If people here are different from other forums, and can't accept me for who I am, and what I do, so be it. As I said, I don't have time to sit and just chat. I do have time to post my articles, listen to comments on them, and answer questions about what I write - especially if I can help someone else. This, with my limited capabilities to work and enjoy life, is what I do. Help others. If you can't see past your preconcieved ideas or me, and don't think I've learned anything, and don't think I am able to help you, then don't log on to my threads. May God bless all of you, T.R. PS There is alot to learned from this thread, because this deer is teaching me a lot, and reminding me of a lot of things - that can make people better able to understand deer, which could make them better hunters. Once again you fail to realize what we are saying. We don't have any pre-conceived ideas about you, we are just saying you are using these forums for the wrong reason. You want to post articles, fine, just do it where you'll make a profit and aren't risking someone claiming your work as theirs. Kyle put it best when he said that this is not Deer School. If we want to know more about that we'll watch Discovery Channel, Animal Planet or shell out $1000 for a college Biology class. This is the Realtree family forums, not biology class...trust me...I've had enough biology for one year after finishing up my first year of college. I've got a feeling though, that no matter what we keep trying to tell you it just won't sink in. You're not making a very good first impression let me tell you that and this is beginning to border on spam. :spam: Someone alert, Swampy! Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Thanks, Kyle! Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 I think that guy is an alien, he just writes funny. :alien: Kinda like he swooped down to impart his devine wisdom on us and we chose not to take it. We may pay a big price in the future. :clown: But seriously, isn't it naive to think that "watching" turkeys for four years puts you on a higher plateau than the rest of us? Isn't it belittling to hear him say that he doesn't have to "worry" about carrying a weapon? Like my gun is a constant nuisance demanding attention to the point that I can't focus on the birds in the field in front of me. Wierd man, just plain wierd. Of course on the other hand, judging by how my last couple of turkey seasons have went...........Hey man come back!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorden Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 This guy has rubbed me the wrong way from the beginning, seemed a bit iffy :shifty: I think that guy is an alien, he just writes funny. :alien: Lol, interesting thought but I just think you were looking for a way to fit that alien smilie in somewhere:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 I think that guy is an alien, he just writes funny. :alien: Kinda like he swooped down to impart his devine wisdom on us and we chose not to take it. We may pay a big price in the future. :clown: But seriously, isn't it naive to think that "watching" turkeys for four years puts you on a higher plateau than the rest of us? Isn't it belittling to hear him say that he doesn't have to "worry" about carrying a weapon? Like my gun is a constant nuisance demanding attention to the point that I can't focus on the birds in the field in front of me. Wierd man, just plain wierd. Of course on the other hand, judging by how my last couple of turkey seasons have went...........Hey man come back!!!!!!! He was legit, I googled him. He just doesn't understand the meaning of a forum. Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doe-ee Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 I wonder if his next 4 year study was US!!!! :shifty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Lol, interesting thought but I just think you were looking for a way to fit that alien smilie in somewhere:D Crap, you got me. But seriously, it was just like this monotone remark constantly. "I am trying to help you, I am trying to help you" And nothing seemed to deter him from that path. He was legit, I googled him. He just doesn't understand the meaning of a forum. Dakota Yeah I did to, Dakota, that's where i saw he was posting the exact same thread titles and comments on virtually every forum he could get into. 42 by his count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Since the administrator has told me to either "be here to become friends"(sit and chat), or else - I'll bow out. God bless, T.R. Reminds me of a song Don Meredith used to sing on Monday Night Football: "Turn out the lights....the party's over.....they say that all good things must end..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Years ago I was working constuction and a newby started fresh out of college (book in hand btw) and tried to tell my foreman how to build a house. TR outlasted him! :pop: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Not to beat a dead horse (hey, where's the smilie for that?), but based on what I learned from this thread, I don't think I would enjoy having this individual as my guide. Didn't seem very personable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 :alien: I'm telling you, he's an alien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 So watching a doe from an apartment building is good enough grounds for writing a book? Man, I need to get ahold of this guys publisher.:hammer1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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