buckbuster11 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Donte Stallworth hits somebody with his car, kills the person, and gets 30 days in jail. Plaxico Burress accidently shoots himself, and is facing 3 years in jail. :hammer1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 yeah, I dont get it either :no: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Donte Stallworth hits somebody with his car, kills the person, and gets 30 days in jail. Plaxico Burress accidently shoots himself, and is facing 3 years in jail. :hammer1: What about Michael Vick??? The death of a human being caused by another individual's lack of good judgment just doesn't carry much weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_lou Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Donte Stallworth hits somebody with his car, kills the person, and gets 30 days in jail. Plaxico Burress accidently shoots himself, and is facing 3 years in jail. :hammer1: He did flash his lights at the guy. What else should he have done? (we need a dripping sarcasm smilie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared264mag Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 It don't make any sense to me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Plaxico Burress accidently shoots himself, and is facing 3 years in jail. Burress's prob. was he was carrying illegally (if I'm not mistaken), thats a federal law...same with Vick...his was something to do with federal law as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 The Browns suck so bad, the judge and jury had mercy I guess. Seriously, yeah, America tends to look the other way when it comes to alcohol related "accidents." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABuckSlayer Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 A human life isn't valued as much as an animals life these days it seems. We're the new Chinese!!! Plax was in NY that's part of his problem. Nevertheless Stallworth should have done at least 1 year if not 5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Burress's prob. was he was carrying illegally (if I'm not mistaken), thats a federal law...same with Vick...his was something to do with federal law as well. Stallworth killed a person......doesn't that break a federal law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIwhitetailhunter Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 ahhhh....the American judicial system. Isn't it great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorden Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 He also has two years of house arrest, 8 years probation, 1000 hours of community service, his drivers license suppended for life, and is suspended indefinitely from the NFL...so it is not like he got off with a slap on the wrist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Stallworth killed a person......doesn't that break a federal law? Guess it depends on how someone kills someone. To be honest...I know nothing about "how" he killed someone. From what I read here, he was drinking and driving? If so, and the accident was his fault...then yes I agree he should have gotten more. I was just stating why I knew the others got a stiff sentence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorden Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Guess it depends on how someone kills someone. To be honest...I know nothing about "how" he killed someone. From what I read here, he was drinking and driving? If so, and the accident was his fault...then yes I agree he should have gotten more. From what I have read it was not totally his fault. The guy stepped out in front of him, not in the crosswalk. So had he not been drinking, would he been able to stop, maybe. But he was and that makes him at fault. Thing is had he not been drinking, it may have just been considered an accident and he may have gotten off with nothing. But according to the judge and the police reports, that is what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 From what I have read it was not totally his fault. The guy stepped out in front of him, not in the crosswalk. So had he not been drinking, would he been able to stop, maybe. But he was and that makes him at fault. Thing is had he not been drinking, it may have just been considered an accident and he may have gotten off with nothing. But according to the judge and the police reports, that is what happened. What I take from this is, if he had enough time to flash his lights he had enough time to stop or slow down. I dont know what happened but it sounds like to me that he was thinking "i am flashing my lights now move" and never slowed down. This just irates me. Fact: His Blood alcohol level was over the limit. Fact: He knew the guy ran out in front of him because he had time to flash his lights. Fact: He killed the guy. He should have received atleast 5 years if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) They're saying that there is security camera footage that show Reyes was not in a crosswalk, didn't look for traffic, and really did step out quickly and without warning into the street. I'm not saying this gives Stallworth a free pass, because it was terrible and he shouldn't have been on the road, but what I am saying is that this footage really made Reyes look to be more at fault then originally thought and the Reyes family attorney was so worried that this would create so much reasonable doubt in a jury's mind that he urged them to accept the plea deal. And that is why he sentence was so small. The Vick comparison is VERY off base. Vick not only withheld information, he also promised he'd help to bring down the other big time dog fighters in the country which he didn't follow through on. That and he repeatedly tortured animals for sevarls years- that shows a history of repeated and wrongful doing where in Stallworth's case, it was a one time incident and was not premeditated whatsoever. Again, I think the jerk is getting off way too easy and should have received at least 5 years in jail. But we all have to remember, the victim's family accepted this deal... Johnboy- the Plax comparsion is also WAY off base. Again, he willingly brought a loaded and unregistered firearm into a public building...premeditation is the key here as well, and in Stallworth's case the fact that Reyes appeared to be at a certain level of fault himself saved him. Anyway, if Plax serves anything close to 3 years in jail I'll be a monkey's uncle. Anything else I can help you guys with? Edited June 23, 2009 by muggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 He also has two years of house arrest, 8 years probation, 1000 hours of community service, his drivers license suppended for life, and is suspended indefinitely from the NFL...so it is not like he got off with a slap on the wrist. Actually from what I've read, the drivers license suspension is 5 years. It appears the main reason he got off so easy on the criminal case was due to the family saying they wanted to bring closure to it. That's what's in print anyway. If they hadn't agreed with the plea bargin he would have been facing a lot worse. Remember he had to admit he was guilty too in the criminal case. The family can always go after him in a civil case if they choose to get $ out of him now since he's pled guilty. I don't think we've heard the last of this. I'll bet it won't be too long before their attorney talks the family into going for the big $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 The family can always go after him in a civil case if they choose to get $ out of him now since he's pled guilty. I don't think that's accurate. I'm pretty sure this agreement had language that specifically says they can't pursue any more action against Stallworth, civil or criminal. Really, the main reason he got off so easy was due to that footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I don't think that's accurate. I'm pretty sure this agreement had language that specifically says they can't pursue any more action against Stallworth, civil or criminal. Really, the main reason he got off so easy was due to that footage. Haven't seen the plea agreement muggs so I can't say what's in it. I'd be real surprised if any of the media knew what was in it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorden Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Anything else I can help you guys with? Ya, you can smack me cause I actually agree with you:jaw::fish: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Ya, you can smack me cause I actually agree with you:jaw::fish: That's the first step on the road to acheiving clarity, young grasshopper.:flex: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 http://www.nndb.com/people/032/000045894/ Stallworths deal doesnt surprise me one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 http://www.nndb.com/people/032/000045894/ Stallworths deal doesnt surprise me one bit. You have to be a real piece of work to find yourself drinking and driving after something like that- I'm sure Little's ego doesn't even allow him to think he did anything wrong the first time he killed someone though... Really, I love sports, but the majority of what it's about really makes me sick. That right there, is what you call a paradox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Anything else I can help you guys with? Can you explain to me how he had time and flashed his lights but didnt slow down or stop or swerve? If you have time to flash your lights you have time to get out of the way by doing something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) Can you explain to me how he had time and flashed his lights but didnt slow down or stop or swerve? If you have time to flash your lights you have time to get out of the way by doing something else. I can take a stab at it. Just because you hear in the media that he "flashed his lights" does that not also leave the option open that as he was flashing said lights he was also slamming on the brakes? People tend to hear one thing in the media and sort of develop tunnel vision and just take off and run with it. I doubt he just flashed his lights and after seeing Reyes not paying attention, just kept the pedal to the metal and drove right over him intentioanally. Could his reaction time been impaired due to the booze, yeah, I bet it was. But let's not take one little minute detail and allow this to skew our own judgement. We run into that problem when we allow our TVs to control our thoughts. Just step back from it and think for yourself. I'm sure flashing his lights wasn't the only thing he did. The proof is in the pudding really. Did Stallworth get off easy, yup. Did he receive special treatment because of his $$, you bet the SOB did. But the fact of the matter is the Reyes family accept this deal. In my opinion, that was to make the story go away so they could grieve in piece, and I'm sure it was also done based on the advice they received from their attorney because this footage most likely showed Reyes out of a crosswalk and contributing his own level of fault. Does someone crossing a street outside of a crosswalk warrant death? No, definitely not especially at the hands of a drunk. But the facts are, the deal was accepted by the victims. What more do you need to know? Now...anything else? Edited June 24, 2009 by muggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I can take a stab at it. Just because you hear in the media that he "flashed his lights" does that not also leave the option open that as he was flashing said lights he was also slamming on the brakes? People tend to hear one thing in the media and sort of develop tunnel vision and just take off and run with it. I doubt he just flashed his lights and after seeing Reyes not paying attention, just kept the pedal to the metal and drove right over him intentioanally. Could his reaction time been impaired due to the booze, yeah, I bet it was. But let's not take one little minute detail and allow this to skew our own judgement. We run into that problem when we allow our TVs to control our thoughts. Just step back from it and think for yourself. I'm sure flashing his lights wasn't the only thing he did. The proof is in the pudding really. Did Stallworth get off easy, yup. Did he receive special treatment because of his $$, you bet the SOB did. But the fact of the matter is the Reyes family accept this deal. In my opinion, that was to make the story go away so they could grieve in piece, and I'm sure it was also done based on the advice they received from their attorney because this footage most likely showed Reyes out of a crosswalk and contributing his own level of fault. Does someone crossing a street outside of a crosswalk warrant death? No, definitely not especially at the hands of a drunk. But the facts are, the deal was accepted by the victims. What more do you need to know? Now...anything else? You explained that pretty well, I am impressed. If I was stallworth I would have let it known that I hit my brakes as well and let everyone know instead of letting them guess. Either way, it is over and done with. The family of the victims accepted the deal. The thing that I did not get was even though he was out of the cross walk. Someone still died and the man responsible was driving drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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