DocMort Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I say we shoot him. Not a first amendment right to fly the flag upside down because of a hissy fit. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090710/ap_on_re_us/us_upside_down_flag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flintlock1776 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I won't even read the article but I assume it is some sort of dysfunctional misfit. Lock him up and give him the full treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I say we shoot him ?????????????????????:jaw::no: Congine, a Marine veteran who served in Iraq in 2004 . Congine's upside-down-flag represents distress to him. an accepted way for a soldier to signal distress. He said his distress is likely bankruptcy because the village board refused to grant him a liquor license after he spent nearly $200,000 to buy and remodel a downtown building for an Italian supper club. "It is pretty bad when I go and fight a tyrannical government somewhere else," Congine said, "and then I come home to find it right here at my front door." I think that says enough. Why do folks react so quickly to linch someone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 ?????????????????????:jaw::no: Congine, a Marine veteran who served in Iraq in 2004 . Congine's upside-down-flag represents distress to him. an accepted way for a soldier to signal distress. He said his distress is likely bankruptcy because the village board refused to grant him a liquor license after he spent nearly $200,000 to buy and remodel a downtown building for an Italian supper club. "It is pretty bad when I go and fight a tyrannical government somewhere else," Congine said, "and then I come home to find it right here at my front door." I think that says enough. Why do folks react so quickly to linch someone ? I think he means the village president :gun1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagleman78 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 :angry: I say we shoot him. Not a first amendment right to fly the flag upside down because of a hissy fit. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090710/ap_on_re_us/us_upside_down_flag Sorry but I dont see this nearly as bad as Some yahoo Burning the Flag and calling it Freedom of speech in protest $200,000.00 aint pocket change. I see his reasoning. However I dont with anyone burning old Glory. Im affraid if I saw some wacko attemting to burn her I would probably put away for a long long time . :hammer1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I believe and upside down flag means surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I believe and upside down flag means surrender. Yep!:surrender: Several years ago there was a National Guard Station down the block from my work. One of my p/t workers Veteran) was on his way to work earlier one morning right after the flag was raised there and I guess the solider was not quit awake :sleep1:because he raised it upside down. My guy whipped in there and went to beating on the door until someone came to open it. Told the soldier about the flag and he was alot more wake and moving rather quickly.:clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 I remember in the scouts. If you flew a American flag up-side-down, it ment that somebody needed help. It was a sign of distress signal. http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 I remember in the scouts. If you flew a American flag up-side-down, it ment that somebody needed help. It was a sign of distress signal. http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html I knew that...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Let me ask this ..... What would most think would happen if this man ( or any other) hung an American Bald Eagle upside down ?? Heck it's only a symbol of the Untied States, Right ?? .. Hanging the flag upside down or in any other fashion, except for the manner it's meant to be hung should be a crime .. JMHO If this man is in that much distress, take a ad out in the local paper or make a billboard sign to express that fact. Or better yet, maybe he should have done his homework and applied for these permits before investing all of this money. A mirror may show is stupidity .. again JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Can understand the man being in distress over getting done wrong, flying the flag upside down is hardly something worthy of justifying shooting someone over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) This guy a Marine veteran hanging the very flag he defended upside down because he didn't do his homework in my opinion from someone serving this country should be dealt with. Not trying to stir up an arguement or getting banned over but its not something I take lightly, do something else not dishonor my flag and everyother veterans flag. I should add any other AMERICANS flag Edited July 13, 2009 by DocMort Forgot to add something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 While I might understand his being upset over his being refused a liquor license, that was for a personal reason rather than for a combat unit in distress or a state of national emergency and wouldn't justify flying the flag upside down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 This has really stirred the pot locally here. I can empathize with him but am not fully understanding the "official" accepted way/reason for flying the flag upside down. It sounds like the local government was screwing with him in my opinion. Local government likes to play their God card a lot around here. I doubt this man stuck that kind of $ into this project without getting some sort of preliminary okay for a liquor license. It is a sad situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 I don't like the idea of what he did, nor do I think his reasoning was justified. But I do think he has the right to do it. Just because we don't like his speech doesn't mean he can't do it. When they start telling you that you can't talk about killing a deer in public, your religion or your disdain for your government will you support that too. Our RIGHT to free speech is sacred, whether we like the opinion or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultratec1 Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Even if you dont agree with what he did he still has that RIGHT as an american citizen. This same man served his country, the same country who is now telling him he can't express his FREEDOM of speech which he defended for US as well as himself. The flag being flown upside down is a signal of distress, not out of disrespect in this situation, this man thinks that this country is in distress and if you watch the news or read a paper some might think that he is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 He has stated that his distress was his bankruptcy. This same man that served his country should know that there is things he shouldn't do to his flag or my flag, or your flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungry hunter Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Distress, NOT!!! this fellow is angry at the city commision. As a veteran he should know better. All he did was disrespect all veterans past and future. If you disrespect my flag in front of me IT'S ON!!!:nono: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 I feel the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Some of you guys go too deep and I can't throw the ball that far. I respect those that argue that the flag is sacred and should not be disrespected. I also respect, maybe more so, the individual right to freedom of speech in this country. If we lose that what would we need a flag for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 (edited) Mike I'm one that feel that the Flag should be protected from freedom of speech, and it should be considered a criminal act to discrace the American Flag ( on American Soil). I defended the flag with the uniform that I dawned for 6 yrs. NOT to have it disrespected by mostly those that have NEVER defended it. To me it's a long living symbol of the this nation and represents more than just a piece of colored cloth, as is the American Bald Eagle, but with the differnce being you can't burn or hang upside down the American Bald Eagle. I do agree this country is in distress, but if you want to vocalize that, then build a billboard or write an add in your local paper, there's NO need to derespect the Flag by burning it, hanging it upside down at a whim, or stomping on it .. JMO Edited August 2, 2009 by VermontHunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Vermont Hunter I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Even if you dont agree with what he did he still has that RIGHT as an american citizen. This same man served his country, the same country who is now telling him he can't express his FREEDOM of speech which he defended for US as well as himself. The flag being flown upside down is a signal of distress, not out of disrespect in this situation, this man thinks that this country is in distress and if you watch the news or read a paper some might think that he is correct. this and john f. have it right on. i see no disrespect of the american flag to fly it upside down. it is the sign of distress, and this guy certainly felt distress. sure, his distress was caused by the local city council but it is distress none the less. i support his ability to fly his distress flag and think the cops were wrong to remove it. we are not a police state. yet. i fought from '66 to '70 while the long hair hippies spit on me (really) and burned our flag. my job was to protect their ability to do so. this country is in distress, and while flying the flag for him was a bit shallow, i support his right to do so. a small minded and most likely under bribed city council bankrupted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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