92xj Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Good deal FYI, your opinions still suck :clown: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1 Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Good deal FYI, your opinions still suck :clown: HAHA....:flex: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Davids reputation stands for itself and any level of defense given on my part would be meaningless though this thread has been entertaining...... Does the original Poster of this thread have any stickers on his vehicle or for that matter the brand name of the vehicle itself(GMC, Chevy, Toyota, Ford, etc..)...and if so why are they there? Why does the advertising bother so many people these days? Have we not proven by the buying habits that we all have that advertising works? I really wonder what some of the people who complain have with them when they hunt, how they became aware of those products, and why they made the decisions to purchase those particular items. I see whats being advertised and do enough research to see if the overall benefits are worth it to me. I have fun with it anymore and look at it as more of a "Hunt" through all of the advertising to find the facts(as they apply to me). I also wonder how many people dont even realize that advertising extends well into areas that you take for granted but simply dont realize your being effected??? When was the last time you really looked at a truck your following? For me on my vehicle you'll see the stickers of products I have used and believe in enough to associate myself with. What they are is irrelevant but here's the list: (RealTree, NRA, Renzo's, Nikon, Staywoods) If you or me think we can spot everything at face value your wrong. Sure you can see the stacks of products with the brand name in full view but there is and has been subliminal advertising going on for many years. Did you realize the bolded first letters of the words above was a form of "Subliminal Advertising"? If you doubt what I'm saying and have a copy of the movie "Top Gun"...the next time the flight control officer leaves the base commanders office after complaining about the "Fly-bys" by Tom Cruise on the tower...PAUSE the movie just as the tray carrying the coffee gets spilled. There in an instant, actually more like only 1-2 frames of the video, on the bottom of the tray there is a popular soda manufacturers insignia in full color. If I personally feel like I'm watching an Infomercial I simply switch the channel and watch something else. I've been around here enough to see the first time poster/basher mentality and often think that it is just more than likely a case of frustration thats out of control. It's too bad really because I also believe that alot of these people could share alot of experience with things they do hunting that have worked for them and yes even the products that they were using at the time. P.S. OUTSIDER....That was one of the best "Rants" I have heard since the last episode I watched of "Spirit of the Wild". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Davids reputation stands for itself and any level of defense given on my part would be meaningless though this thread has been entertaining...... Does the original Poster of this thread have any stickers on his vehicle or for that matter the brand name of the vehicle itself(GMC, Chevy, Toyota, Ford, etc..)...and if so why are they there? Why does the advertising bother so many people these days? Have we not proven by the buying habits that we all have that advertising works? I really wonder what some of the people who complain have with them when they hunt, how they became aware of those products, and why they made the decisions to purchase those particular items. I see whats being advertised and do enough research to see if the overall benefits are worth it to me. I have fun with it anymore and look at it as more of a "Hunt" through all of the advertising to find the facts(as they apply to me). I also wonder how many people dont even realize that advertising extends well into areas that you take for granted but simply dont realize your being effected??? When was the last time you really looked at a truck your following? For me on my vehicle you'll see the stickers of products I have used and believe in enough to associate myself with. What they are is irrelevant but here's the list: (RealTree, NRA, Renzo's, Nikon, Staywoods) If you or me think we can spot everything at face value your wrong. Sure you can see the stacks of products with the brand name in full view but there is and has been subliminal advertising going on for many years. Did you realize the bolded first letters of the words above was a form of "Subliminal Advertising"? If you doubt what I'm saying and have a copy of the movie "Top Gun"...the next time the flight control officer leaves the base commanders office after complaining about the "Fly-bys" by Tom Cruise on the tower...PAUSE the movie just as the tray carrying the coffee gets spilled. There in an instant, actually more like only 1-2 frames of the video, on the bottom of the tray there is a popular soda manufacturers insignia in full color. If I personally feel like I'm watching an Infomercial I simply switch the channel and watch something else. I've been around here enough to see the first time poster/basher mentality and often think that it is just more than likely a case of frustration thats out of control. It's too bad really because I also believe that alot of these people could share alot of experience with things they do hunting that have worked for them and yes even the products that they were using at the time. P.S. OUTSIDER....That was one of the best "Rants" I have heard since the last episode I watched of "Spirit of the Wild". Nice post Gary... you got a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 My purchases are based on need, not because I saw Joe Pro shoot a whopper with it on tv. I also have stickers on my truck window, but I dont tell people I meet that I catch lots of fish because I wear Native brand polarized glasses. But Im also not getting paid to do that. It only bothers me because sometimes they credit the hunt to some product that in reality probably made no difference, ie, The buck did not walk by them because they had a nock that lights up when you shoot it....in certain cases, to me its no different than saying Jimmie Johnson wins races because he shops at Lowes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 My purchases are based on need, not because I saw Joe Pro shoot a whopper with it on tv. I also have stickers on my truck window, but I dont tell people I meet that I catch lots of fish because I wear Native brand polarized glasses. But Im also not getting paid to do that. It only bothers me because sometimes they credit the hunt to some product that in reality probably made no difference, ie, The buck did not walk by them because they had a nock that lights up when you shoot it....in certain cases, to me its no different than saying Jimmie Johnson wins races because he shops at Lowes.. ummmm??? why would a nock that lights up bring in a buck in the first place??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 ummmm??? why would a nock that lights up bring in a buck in the first place??? Exactly, I was using that as an example. From the shows (from many companies) I've seen, lots of times a guy is sitting by his buck he killed trying to tell me that his fancy nock, or his overpriced boots, or his $400 treestand made it possible to kill that deer. When in reality its because they were hunting with a good outfitter on good property. And I know they always say thank you to the guides and give their info. All this is ok, its how they run their business. I just dont watch, for these reasons. Im not trying to convince people to not watch these shows, if you like them watch them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Realtree Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I'll answer this in the morning guy (when I have a little more time). S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 camoman1, I have seen the point your trying to make and agree that it is personal prefference with everything. My purchases are based on need, not because I saw Joe Pro shoot a whopper with it on tv. My questions is this...what made you pick a Hoyt and choose your signature for the forums here? Why is it not a Mathews or the FLW tour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Andrus Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 uh oh Scotts in the house LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 uh oh Scotts in the house LOL Dont be askeert Tim....S is good S is wise:hammer1::bat::clown: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 camoman1, I have seen the point your trying to make and agree that it is personal prefference with everything. My questions is this...what made you pick a Hoyt and choose your signature for the forums here? Why is it not a Mathews or the FLW tour? I dont know what the FLW tour is...I bought a hoyt because Ive owned them in the past and liked them and I shot others and preferred the hoyt. And the fishing club is a local club I belong to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger-Hunter Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I love Blanton - but he is hunting for video footage. He was likely referring to disappointing day in regards to that. The show is called Monster Bucks, not Alotta Does. I'm not trying to cause a ruckus, but he seems like a real good guy and I'm betting that his comments were based on that context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMSD5 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 realtree and bill jorden/david blaton are the forerunners of hunting video's they have been around quite a while now and will be here longer to bring us quility tv huntig to enjoy, so they must be doing something right, and yes the advertising just pays the bills. rt keep doing what your doing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Realtree Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I'm not sure if you could find anyone that hunts that hasn't had a disappointing experience in the field. Bad weather, a miss, or just not seeing anything, it's going to happen. And that goes for anywhere and anybody. I think it's OK to be disappointed. It's like saying a professional athlete or NASCAR driver are not allowed to be disappointed when they lose. They are, but that doesn't mean they are not appreciative of their status in their particular field. Many of the comments in this thread bring up good points and everyone is entitled to their opinion. David is in the hunting business. Don't think he and all the others are not appreciative of the opportunities they have been given. We all understand it's not the same as hunting public land or areas where trophy game animals are few and far between (many of us here live that every season). Bill, David, Michael and all the others do get to hunt in outstanding locations and for unbelievable trophies, but our past and our reputation are on the line every season. They are out there trying to deliver footage and hunts that people have come to expect from Realtree. And the hunts allow those of us who might never have a chance to go on one, see what it's like. I get asked (a lot) what it's like to work at Realtree? Everyone assumes that we are all on the road every year enjoying dream hunts. That's not the case and I have told anyone that will listen that there is no way that I could do what David and the others do. DVDs and TV doesn't tell the whole story. If you look at the amount of time they are on the road and in the woods, I don't know if one, two, or even three nice trophies a year would be worth the time spent away from my home and families. From late August until mid January, those guys are basically on the road and in the woods somewhere. That close to half of a year gone... every year. Thanks, S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 If you look at the amount of time they are on the road and in the woods, I don't know if one, two, or even three nice trophies a year would be worth the time spent away from my home and families. From late August until mid January, those guys are basically on the road and in the woods somewhere. That close to half of a year gone... every year. Thanks, S That goes for me as well Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hummmm...interesting reading so far. I may be wrong but the thanks they give to the sponsors at the end of the show goes sort of like "we'd like to thank our sponsors for making this hunt possible". My interpretation of that is pretty simple. If it weren't for those sponsors support, be it free products to use and/or financial support they wouldn't be able to provide the shows for our enjoyment. I've never taken an interpretation of the thanks they give to sponsors to be it's the best product. They sure help make us aware of products on the market and its use but it's up to us to decide if it is something that will give us an edge in hunting and recovering our game. As far as the ranch statement goes, yes the majority of RT's hunts happen with outfitters but not all of them. We usually see hunts taken on Bill's GA property. I recall hunts Bill Winke had on private property he had access to in IL too. I also know for a fact that the majority of the hunts the Drury team airs comes from either their own land or land they have access to from leasing or whatever. The Kisky's mainly hunt their own property or property they lease too. A good friend of mine once told me, the most important thing when it comes to killing big, mature bucks is to hunt where they live in huntable numbers. The more big bucks that live on a property, the better your odds at killing one. Can't argue with that wisdom. The main goal for RT and others that provide us with hunting shows for our enjoyment is to have as many close encounters with big bucks as they possibly can during a single season. That's not as easy as it might appear on TV. As a result, they spend as much time as possible hunting where those big bucks exist in huntable numbers. If they have a day hunting a place known to have numbers of big bucks and only see does it is disappointing. I'm disappointed too when I'm hunting on the road like that with a limited amount of time to put a tag on a trophy buck. It's a natural, honest reaction. When I'm hunting at home time is on my side so I don't experience the same feeling of disappointment on days when I only see does. As far as David settling for a buck he couldn't pass up toward the end of his hunt, I don't have a problem with that either. The vast majority of the hunters I've met while hunting on the road change their standards for what they will kill as the end of the hunt nears. The hunters that don't are extremely few and far between. Of all the out of state hunts I've taken over the past 15 years or so I could probably count those extremely selective hunters on one hand and have room for more. David has the added pressure to provide a quality successful big buck hunt to air for TV and the RT videos. So...do I fault him for choosing to bag a quality buck that he might have passed on the 1st day or 2? Heck no!! That's hunting. I once met Michael Waddel at a show here in MS. One thing he said while talking about a hunting matter was "I'm just a hunter". Believe it or not...so is David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 If you look at the amount of time they are on the road and in the woods, I don't know if one, two, or even three nice trophies a year would be worth the time spent away from my home and families. From late August until mid January, those guys are basically on the road and in the woods somewhere. That close to half of a year gone... every year. Thanks, S I could Scott! Couldn't resist. And that doesn't include the offseason trips for shows, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I could Scott! Couldn't resist. And that doesn't include the offseason trips for shows, etc. When Bill said "Family, Friends, and the Outdoors" I think that is a pretty good order for me (with the exception of opening day!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Andrus Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 We all understand it's not the same as hunting public land or areas where trophy game animals are few and far between (many of us here live that every season). Bill, David, Michael and all the others do get to hunt in outstanding locations and for unbelievable trophies, but our past and our reputation are on the line every season. They are out there trying to deliver footage and hunts that people have come to expect from Realtree. And the hunts allow those of us who might never have a chance to go on one, see what it's like. I get asked (a lot) what it's like to work at Realtree? Everyone assumes that we are all on the road every year enjoying dream hunts. That's not the case and I have told anyone that will listen that there is no way that I could do what David and the others do. DVDs and TV doesn't tell the whole story. If you look at the amount of time they are on the road and in the woods, I don't know if one, two, or even three nice trophies a year would be worth the time spent away from my home and families. From late August until mid January, those guys are basically on the road and in the woods somewhere. That close to half of a year gone... every year. Thanks, S Good reply Scott! Last year 3 trips--1 trophy this year 4 trips hopefully 3 trophies LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Even though I said I was done posting, well I lied lol... I bet there are countless hours in the stand and I am also pretty sure that lots of hunts Team Realtree goes home empty handed. Not every time they hunt, they bag a big buck or a doe for that matter. These guys knows in and outs of hunting, thats why they kill the big bucks. It does help to hunt the right places, but that still doesn't gurantee a big buck kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 i've hunted with david, and he's the real deal. i'd hunt with him anytime. but, i would not want his job. just too much pressure and too much time away from home. every hunt he goes on is new pressure to shoot a "monster buck" video part. sure, he has top notch outfitters wanting him to come out and hunt with them. then, these guys try to put him on their best animals. it's called "advertising". if david shoots a monster, they fill up their hunts for years to come. and hunting product manufacturers want david to use their products, and ford wants them to drive a ford. simple as that. but if he doesn't kill a nice buck, no video is made usually and everyone is out. so, while david is an outstanding guy, he has a pile of pressure and a very hectic schedule. i'm sure he'd prefer to go out to the stand with 3 cameras, shoot a 200 point P&Y, and be back at the lodge by 9am so he can go home the next day. but that doesn't happen often enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegz70 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I have to pipe in here and say that i just read through this post and am kind of blown away by all the responses. How about this for an idea.... "I like watching RT videos because i enjoy seeing people that are: 1) entertaining 2)motivational to me 3)passionate. I also enjoy just watching big deer in general. " I agree with Steve B. here....(and forgive me if i mis-read you Steve) but the areas that the RT team would be hunting have been thoroughly scouted and why wouldnt they be? Great locations, Good promotion for the business and trophy Deer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I met David Blanton in Nashville at the NWTF convention this past winter and spent some time talking with him. The man is down to earth as anyone you could ever meet and is passionate about what he does. If you saw the way he interacts with the throng of people, especially the children, waiting on line to get autographs and pictures you would see a true ambassador to the traditions of hunting. He certainly gets to hunt in some fantastic places. It comes with the job. Something he works very hard at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I'd be dissappointed too if I was on a trophy hunting property and just saw does all day. The man isn't meat hunting, he is hunting for a trophy whitetail to show us on film. Thats his job bro.....it's not called Monster Does.......... Nope that would be if I was hunting on that show............me and TBone could make one heck of a show shooting does and finest way to prepare and eat them.:yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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