struttinhoyt Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 After watching a show the other day and they were talking about floating your barrel from better accuracy... Yes I understand it... But after thinking about it I was checking out my Ruger M77 .270 with a Skeleton synthetic stock... I find that it does not pass the dollar bill trick, It is touching pretty much all the way down the barrel... Is this something to even worry about... or is it putting the hurt on my accuracy. :crutch: If so how do I go about fixing it, seeing as how its a synthetic stock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 What kind of distance are you shooting and what do your groups look like at that distance? I target shoot 500 + yards. Yes floating the barrel helps in accuracy at that distance for my gun. My deer gun that I shoot anywhere from 25 yards to 500 yards hits dead on everytime and I have not floated the barrel. It all deepends on how your gun is shooting for you now to determine if you believe you need better results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
struttinhoyt Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 It genrally won't see shots over 200... I site it in at 100 and get decent groups... But I think they could be better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 If you want to play with your rifle I would recommend glass bedding the receiver while floating the barrel. Glass bedding is more expensive but for me was worth it. All rifles are different but if you are wanting to try something, take it to a shop and let them bed and float it. You should see good changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 "Most" guns don't need to be floated...they shoot fine outta the box. If your wanting to improve accuracy, a bedding and float would more than likely help. Being a syn. stock isn't much different...take it to a gunsmith and they'll clean out the stock to allow the barrel to float...I prefer a little more than a dollar bill. If your thinking a bedding job...look into brownells...if your shooting a mag. you may want to bed it with a bedding compound with stainless steel particals in it. Its a little stronger than glass. I wouldn't worry about it if your shooting good groups with a deer rifle. If your looking for better accuracy...put the extra $ into it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 The most important consideration in my big game hunting rifles isn't small groups but day to day consistency. If you're getting 2 inch groups with an out of the box standard hunting rifle and it shoots to the same point of impact every day, leave it alone. You've got a gem there. Get a target rifle to impress your friends. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I'm a little confused about something here. Recently while watching the Outdoor Channel I saw something I dont understand. Larry Potterfield was doing one of his short commercials where he seems to ream out the entire stock, mix up something that looks like epoxy, then sets the barrell back down into the stock which squeezes out some of that mix. If accuracy is increased by having a free floating barrell why is this a process that he is showing since it seems to make the barrell contact completely with the stock and what is this process called??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I'm a little confused about something here. Recently while watching the Outdoor Channel I saw something I dont understand. Larry Potterfield was doing one of his short commercials where he seems to ream out the entire stock, mix up something that looks like epoxy, then sets the barrell back down into the stock which squeezes out some of that mix. If accuracy is increased by having a free floating barrell why is this a process that he is showing since it seems to make the barrell contact completely with the stock and what is this process called??? I'll be looking forward to seeing this question answered. I have wondered about the same thing myself. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I'm a little confused about something here. Recently while watching the Outdoor Channel I saw something I dont understand. Larry Potterfield was doing one of his short commercials where he seems to ream out the entire stock, mix up something that looks like epoxy, then sets the barrell back down into the stock which squeezes out some of that mix. If accuracy is increased by having a free floating barrell why is this a process that he is showing since it seems to make the barrell contact completely with the stock and what is this process called??? Believe that commercial you are talking about Gary, that Larry Potterfield is glass bedding the action of that rifle. Glass bedding gives a better action to stock fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Typically you only glass bed around the receiver leaving the barrel still "floating" the furthest I have ever seen it go down the barrel is 1.5". If he did the entire barrel then they were just trying to show him doing something for the commercial. Its all about contact points and how they effect the vibrations of the and harmonics. For any hunting rifle these are not needed at all. If you want something else to play with, go get an adjustable break and play with the harmonics with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) There are all kinds of bedding prcedures for rifle stocks. Full length epoxy bedding was all the rage at one time. I just bought an old stock that was done in that manner. It is a 50 year old stock. There are hard epoxy compounds and pliable ones and all kinds of procedures like pillar bedding etc., etc. I read some old books on shooting and how they took Lee Enfields and hollowed out the stocks and filled them with crushed rubber to make them shoot "best". After that I bedded a model 7 remington in .260 that didn't like to shoot in a substance called Shoe Goo. It worked amazingly well. Sub Moa amazingly well! Must be the rubber soaks up vibration. Only problem was it was permanent. I never could find a release agent that worked so I gave up on the idea. There are all kinds of ways to bed a rifle and most of them work. The real key to accuracy is a perfect barrel. And that is where the difficulty lies becuase even a perfect barrel constantly changes as it wears. Mark Edited July 27, 2009 by m gardner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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