Nut Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Have you ever done something that crosses over the line of your own personal standards and ethics for gain? I think I did this morning. I pretty much assured someone interviewing me a spot to hunt this fall if they hire me. Would this be a bribe or just a added benefit? I just was wondering and I do not think I am proud of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 You have been out of work how long now???? In my opinion, you need to do what ever you can to take care of your family to the best of your ability. And if that means taking someone hunting, so be it. In these hard times, I do not see a problem with what you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 You have been out of work how long now???? 6 months. I will have to apply for extended unemployment benefits next week since this is my last week of the original 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Hey nut sounds like you have a great resume'! I'd hire you. You didn't cross an ethical line in my opinion. Now if my wife were interviewing for the same job and was better qualified but you got the job. Well guess what... You still didn't do anything unethical in my book. The guy that hired you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods07 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Like I learned in my college ethics class, sometimes there isn't one right answer. Whatever you use to justify the means determines whether or not the act is ethical. In your case, you have plenty of reasons why what you did was completely justified. There's nothing wrong with it in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Always look out for #1. You're good in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layin on the smackdown Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Heres what i think........ I wish i was your new boss.... If you were in an interview, and you started talking about hunting, i would assume that regardless of what you said, the interview went well, and this employer likes you... I hope you get the job, and i don't think there was anything even remotely close to unethical done...If anything, it was a good card to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Guess I'll play Devils Advocate, and say that IMO yes, what was said/done does constitute a bribe. Bribery, a form of pecuniary corruption, is an act implying money or gift given that alters the behaviour of the recipient. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkV Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I do not see a issue at all, you are looking out for #1 and your family and the conversation did not go there by yourself I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Man, don't sweat that! So what if you offered to cut his grass? You need a job to support you're family! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 You have been out of work how long now???? In my opinion, you need to do what ever you can to take care of your family to the best of your ability. And if that means taking someone hunting, so be it. In these hard times, I do not see a problem with what you did. Could not agree more. Don't see a thing wrong with what you did Fred. Like Kirk said too, the conversation did not get to that point by you alone. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion_70 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I wouldn't say that would constitute a bribe, I'd say more of a we're going to get along well if I work here. Like others said, I'm sure if the conversation got off on that subject, he already had his mind made up. Never hurts to have the boss on your good side for sure. I won't compromise my ethics/morale/word for personal gain. I have to sleep at night and nobody can take away my peace of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I say you had to do what you had to do. Numero Uno comes 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I don' see a problem with that at all. Employers sweeten the pot all the time ( ie: moving expenses, air fare to the interview...) to get the employee they want. Why can't you sweeten the pot to get the job you want? Good luck with the job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Benefit...anything goes when looking for a good job. Well, almost anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 There isn't any line crossed, it is known as survival and getting a job so a person can eat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 There isn't any line crossed, it is known as survival and getting a job so a person can eat! you gots ta do whatcha gots ta do1 I see nothing wrong with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 There isn't any line crossed, it is known as survival and getting a job so a person can eat! Hard to argue with that ,,, I wouldn't want to be on the losing end, but todays world is truly a Dog eat Dog world, and the Big dog eats first .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskybnd Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 im with the others on this , i see nothing done wrong if what you said to get the job, hope you get the job, it would be awsome to work for a person that likes to hunt also, gives you an edge on topics to talk about, and if he's a die hard hunter than calling in sick to sit in a deer stand might not be needed he might want to take off too to go hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 You have to ask yourself a couple of questions and if you can answer yes to them then you're aces on the conscience part. 1. Are you qualified for the job you might be hired for and had no doubt about that before you applied or were interviewed? 2. Did you have any preconceived notion of using the promise of a hunt with the interviewer prior to the interview? 3. Do you feel that you will stay with this job long-term and did not simply apply for this job to get you by until you get a better offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 When I was looking for work I'd always ask what the starting wage was and tell them I would take the job for a few bucks less an hour and after a few months when i prove to be the man for the job, pay me what I'm worth. Maybe a bribe but, money talks. I saved him a few bucks and he gave me a job. A guys gotta eat! Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) Orlan has this nailed to the wall. I used to ask would be employers if they wanted me to go out and wash their car...so who am I to judge! Everyone of them took it as "This guy is serious about wanting this job"...thats all and nothing more. Edited August 14, 2009 by GWSmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 would you hunt with this guy if he did not hire you? if so, it was a hunting offer. if not, it's a bribe. most of us would do the same. call it an "added incentive". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 He seems like a pretty nice fellow who had not been hunting in a long time. Main reason was he lost all his places to hunt through various reasons. So basically without thinking I said what I did. I have standards about work that have worked to my detriment. One is to never be a brown noser . I know that is one of the reasons I have been the one chosen for lay offs twice. This sorta makes me feel I was kissing something. I have always let my work speak for itself for those who understand. One layoff they tried to get me to come back after they found out how much production was lost. LOL I guess I would get over it if they hire me. Because the VP who I did this to came out when I was with the plant manager and said to not be upset because the ad would be running this Sunday again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doe-ee Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I am in the process of hiring 4-6 people this week. If one of the applicants offered me say.....a haircut every month for free and I felt that this person was not suited for the position I would not hire them no matter what they offered. After all, I have to work with this person day in and day out. There is no way a haircut or anything else would make up for an incompetent employee. If you got the job you got it on your own merit. Offering to take the guy hunting is just a friendly thing to do. Good luck to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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