SourthenILdeerhunter Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 what is a good muzzeloader for a begginer that cant handle much of a kick????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse8953 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) cva wolf is a great ml and not to expensive.I would stay with a break open style.They are easy to load the primer and easy to clean. GWSMITH has a ml/shotgun in the classified forum. Edited August 20, 2009 by jesse8953 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Sure there are plenty to choose from that will work for you, but you will have to work up your loads to best fit you, nice thing about ml'ers. My wife and oldest daughter both shoot my tc black diamond without any issues at all. Oldest daughter was shooting that gun at age 8 with a downcharged powder load. With 120 grains of pyro I don't think there is as much recoil with the ml as what there is with my .270. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil hunter Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Pick a muzzleloader that fits you well, and you can afford. Muzzleloaders are perfect for working up a lighter charge for less recoil. You can load up 90 grains or so of powder, and a lightweight bullet and have very little recoil, and still kill any deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontierGander Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 CVA Accura with Thumbhole. Upper right hand corner is 3 shots @ 100 yards with 110gr RS and 247gr thor conical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzy1 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 TC ENCORE...dont load 150 gr powder go with 100 and there won't be any kick.150 gr is over kill for whitetail in my opinion...the balistics are so close,and you will be more accurate becouse of the lack of recoil....my2cents.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 The "kick" can be controlled for any ML. Just powder down. I read that buffalo used to be shot with just 70 grains of powder by the US Cavalry. That's what I charge my Remington Genesis with for my 8 year old daughter. Hopefully she'll connect on her first deer this October. My Remington Genesis cost me 199.99 last Christmas at Cabela's. It's SS with a RT camo stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Hey Fly- That "70" grains of black powder is the charge and part of the name in the venerable .45-70 blackpowder cartridge. They knocked over tons of buffs on the priarie with that load. An unfortunate deal, but proof the round and charge can be lethal. I use a 70 grain charge in my Hawken, and kill deer dead with a patched round ball. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlriggins Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 from the standpoint of low recoil my answer is a heavy one the heavier the gun the lower the recoil also a light powder charge 100g or less should provide a good start if you dont like a heavy gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I shoot a cva optime it is a great gun. But all brands of muzzleloaders do not kick at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bowhunter56 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 cva optima here also, 100 grains of 777, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokostel Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 120 of FF grade 777, and a 300 grain SST or a 295 Powerbelt. ( TC Encore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) T.C. with the flex tec stuff in the stock dont kick much at all.....it's in a bunch of different ones. I have a Pro hunter and I use 100g/2 pellets of 777, 200g shock wave bullet and have shot 2 does at 190yds at 1 buck at 140....several others up close....I have had my 9 year old girl cuz shoot it and it's no big thing. I REALLY HAVE HAD BLAD LUCK WITH POWER BELT>>>JUST SO YOU KNOW Edited August 27, 2009 by MichiganHunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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