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Ethan Givan

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  Tominator said:
I think too many hunters give too many deer too much credit in the intelligence area.

I would definately agree with that statement. Do deer have a great sense of smell, sure, but I dont believe that you have to go to extreme measures to try and beat a deers nose in order to harvest a mature buck. Case and point, take my brother and I for example, we are two complete opposites when it comes to deer hunting. Me, when I go hunting, I shower in scent free soap(most of the time), store my Scent-Lok clothes in a rubbermaid container, spray down with scent killer before I go out, hunt stands based on the wind, try not to hunt the same stand too often and when Im done with a hunt, I spray my clothes down again and put them back in the container. What this has gotten me...in my 7+ years of hunting I have seen only one mature/shooter buck. Now take my brother, he never showers before he goes out, never sprays his clothes with scent killer, leaves his clothes laying all over the basement, hunts whatever stand regardless of wind and will hunt a the same stand everyday of the week if he can. He did this all of last year, sat in the same stand almost everyday, not ony did he see more deer than I did, but he would see shooter bucks on a constant basis too. At one point he even shot a mature 10-point.

I believe that the more you can do to eliminate your scent, the better chance you will have to harvest a big buck. However each deer is different and may not be as smart as other deer. I am sure there are deer who have smelled me but walked past me anyway. I would be willing to bet that most deer do not associate the smell of a human with danger. Id guess most deer do not know a human when they smell one. If so, like Storiale said, you would never see them.

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  Jorden said:
I would be willing to bet that most deer do not associate the smell of a human with danger.

I disagree with that completely. I know for a fact that deer do associate human scent with danger. I have seen deer walk down wind of me 100 yards away, raise thier heads, snort, and take off. If they didnt associate my scent with danger then why did they run?

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My 2 "scents"

When hunting a honey hole loaded with Swamp Chestnut Acorns I learned a lot about scent control. First you can't completly contain it. Second I saw deer 3 to 1 over my buddy who did not use any. Same area; we were hunting within sight of each other for over a month. We changed stands often thinking that maybe my stand location was better than his. I always saw more deer no matter which stand I hunted. We would see the deer skirt around him and continue to feed. Deer most of the time were feeding right in fromt of me.

Results; I tagged out easliy and he is now the proud owner of a Scentloc suit and boots. It's not magic, just increasing your odds. Go with what you know.

There are many examples where a seat belt cost one's life in an accident as opposed to saving it. There is also overwhelming evidence that odds are in your favor to survive if your wearing your seat belt. I think I'll wear my seatbelt.

While the results of your attempted scent elimination don't have a guarantee, you have to neutralize his best defensive player to have a chance to score. I think we all would agree that his best defensive player is his "nose"! So put your best foot forward.

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  Ethan Givan said:
I disagree with that completely. I know for a fact that deer do associate human scent with danger. I have seen deer walk down wind of me 100 yards away, raise thier heads, snort, and take off. If they didnt associate my scent with danger then why did they run?

Looking back that did not come off the way I worded it. What I was trying to say is that a lot of deer do not know the smell of a human from the smell of anything else that is out of place in the woods. They do know the smell is out of place and it probably makes them uncomfortable so they decide not to stick around or stay out of that area. I do believe that people give deer too much credit sometimes and if their intelligence was as good as everyone thinks, you would almost never see them. That is why I say that some deer will not associate human scent with immediate danger. I can garuntee that there are some deer that have walk right through my scent trail or downwind of me and have had no reaction whatsoever. Either that or my Scent-lok works really well:D

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