slb9981 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I've shot Muzzy's for several years now on many different rigs however I've always had one problem. I sight in my bow every year with field tips and then switch the week before season starts and try the broadheads and they always shoot a few inches lower. I'm shooting the same grain field tips and broadheads. I've paper tuned the bow and think everything is set up fine. Is it the muzzy's or what? I'm shooting 125 grain but wanted to switch to 100 grain to see if that would help. I've also thought about switching to rage broadheads to see if this would fix the problem. But I really hate spending $35 bucks for 3 broadheads when I can get 6 Muzzy's for that price. Any ideas? Will the switch be worth it. Will the Rage broadheads shoot more like the field tips? Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 From what I've heard expandable or mechanicals, which ever you decide to use, you do not need to paper tune them. They shoot just like field tips. Now if the Muzzy's are working just fine for you, then I wouldn't mess with your set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewink Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I would say go with G5 Montecs. You can get the preseason tips. Or if you want to go with mechanical then go with Rage, they have practice tips too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuckkilla89 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I've shot muzzys every since i started bowhunting and have had pretty good luck with them. But there has been a few times that i have made a less than perfect shot but still should have been fatal and after waitin til the next day still couldnt find the deer. Go to this link and watch this video after seeing this im buyin my rage 2 blades on payday. go n watch http://www.ragebroadheads.com/uncensored/UncensoredFootage.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slb9981 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I have had great success with the muzzys just hate shooting a practice broadhead at my targets. Has anyone had problems with the muzzys not shooting like their field tips? Do the rage shoot like the field tips? Thanks again for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgitall Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 100 grains may do a little better; I would definitely try that. I have shot several fixed blades including muzzy. I have been shooting innerlocs for several years now; I have better luck with them shooting just like my field tips, knowing they are very similar to the muzzy. They just shoot better to me. I'm trying the rage this year; pretty much going against what i've always done in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stcif Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I've shot Muzzy's for several years now on many different rigs however I've always had one problem. I sight in my bow every year with field tips and then switch the week before season starts and try the broadheads and they always shoot a few inches lower. I'm shooting the same grain field tips and broadheads. I've paper tuned the bow and think everything is set up fine. Is it the muzzy's or what? I'm shooting 125 grain but wanted to switch to 100 grain to see if that would help. I've also thought about switching to rage broadheads to see if this would fix the problem. But I really hate spending $35 bucks for 3 broadheads when I can get 6 Muzzy's for that price. Any ideas? Will the switch be worth it. Will the Rage broadheads shoot more like the field tips? Thanks for the help! I wouldn't switch to the 100 grain. Heavier is better for penetration. I have yet to shoot any broadhead that shoots just like a field tip. I've read many advertisements, but I always have made adjustments no matter what the brand. Seems to me if they shoot a little low just adjust the sights accordingly. Last time I shot Muzzy's they shot a little left. Could have been me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterwebb Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 the only fix broadhead i seen that shoot like field point is a g5 monotec and a lot of field points dont weight what they say i say buy a scale then you know for sure what you got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 It's a plaining problem, fieldtips don't have the blades that the broadheads do. I had the same problems with the 100's when I shot them, they always hit low and left. I just made the adjustment on my sights and went hunting. I now shoot the 75 with great success on the same impact of fieltips and broadheads. I've been shooting them for 6 years now and do not have any problems with penetration or killing efficency with them. I've used Muzzy's for 17 years and will never switch from them, I tried the Tekans on one deer when they came out. Now trying a Rage 2 blade this coming season just for giggles, but Muzzy will stay in my quiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Slick tricks shoot just like field points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortDraw Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 90% of peoples problems with broadhead flight is that they don't spin tune them. I'm not saying thats your problem. Two inches low is normal, adjust your sights and go hunt. the muzzy is a great head You can take virtually ANY head and make it shoot like a field tip. All you need to do is spin tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter_va_72 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 how much lower? If it's 2 inches or less then I wouldn't mess with it. I purposely gang adjust my sight so that my broadheads have a lower impact. I shoot for center lung (just as I practiced and shot 3D all summer) and if the deer drops a bit at the shot I have a couple extra inches to play with. If it stands perfectly still then I'm 2 inches below center with a great kill shot. I've yet to see a deer jump rather than duck at the shot. I'm going to give the Shuttle Ts a shot this year and I have several muzzy 3-blade 100grain broadheads as backups, in case the Shuttle Ts don't perform as expected. The Shuttle Ts blade replacement should be easy, like the muzzys, which is a bonus. The rage heads, at least the ones with the screws holding the blade rather than the pin, were a pain to change. Sometimes the screw wouldn't back out. Otherwise the rage heads are devasting, just a little costly. You might try the Rocky Mountain Snyper, same design as the rage at $6-8 cheaper per 3 Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Muzzy is a great head. I wouldnt switch unless youre just really worried about that 2". I agree that its probably caused by the blade. I would put on the practice tips and get sighted in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2008 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 It is just the broadheads. If you want something that is going to fly better switch to a lower profile broadhead. Possibly the new Muzzy MX3, G5 Strikers, Slick Tricks, just to name a few. Lower profile gives you a lot better flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddCountyKiller Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Thats two inches that could be made up for if the deer drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods07 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Here's what I think... The few inch drop that you're experiencing could be due to aerodynamics. Obviously, the Muzzy has more wind resistance than a field point and that slows the arrow down. All broadheads do, whether they are mechanical or fixed. Obviously, mechanicals are made to fly more like field points, and they do, but it doesn't mean you have to switch. You don't want to have to adjust your sight every time you switch from field tips to broadheads. From my Muzzy shooting days, I recall the MX-3 and MX-4 coming with practice heads. You might want to look in to that. I might have one or two laying around I can donate, but they're 100 gr. PM me if you're interested. Sometimes certain setups just don't work with certain broadheads. It's as simple as that. Sure, you can try switching to Rage's, but you will wind up spending a small fortune over the years. They are twice as expensive as your Muzzy's. Keep trying new things. You shouldn't notice that much of a difference in shooting between your field points and broadheads. Try 100 grain. Try 90 grain. Get it dialed in! The last thing you want to think about when you have your pin on a trophy is if your gear is going to fail you or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitteken Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 If everything is in tune your broad heads, no matter what kind, should be very close to your field points. Most people who shoot fixed need to tune your BH's to your arrow. That means spin testing them and making an adjustment to make sure your BH is straight on your arrow. If the ferrule is bent at all or your insert is tilted a little inside the shaft, the blades on a fixed head will accentuate and exaggerate that difference in straightness. Causing your arrow to plane out like a bent arrow would but not that dramatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2008 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 You can't always rely on the Muzzy practice blades to fly the same as the regular blades. I tested both and the real blades flew an in lower than the practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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