Strut10 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I am fairly certain that Pennsylvania is one of the few states in the union where you don't get an "attaboy" for killing a rattlesnake. Can you believe this vomit??????? http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/outdoors/s_640538.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 pretty sad. i relocate any snake i see to a gravesite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 You guys are hard! LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 He just needs to stay in Pa, no room for a snake lover down here in Oklahoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUTSIDER Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I am all for conservation of snakes of all kinds, with the exception of protecting your family/pets. It sickens me to see people killing any and all snakes for the sake of killing them because they have a irrational fear of snakes. What sense does it make to target one species and kill it for the sake of killing it? IMO it is ignorant to be so irresponsible. We as sportsman/women should not be so ignorant to overlook the fact that, we humans occupy the same ecosystems as other species. Snakes of all kinds are vital to the health and well being of any and all healthy ecosystems. I welcome all opinions of anyone who wants to say that i am nuts or whatever, I just hope that true sportsmen/women would not kill anything for the sake of killing it, or killing it because of ignorant fears. Additionally, the timber rattlesnakes that are here in West Virginia are very shy, and timid. Copperheads are the same way, they do not chase people trying to bite them, spewing poision as they chase. I have handled many many poisionous and nonpoisionous snakes over the years...the most aggressive snake i have ever handled has been a common brown watersnake, that is nonpoisionous. Snakes need protection from people, i believe this to the fullest extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I personally don't care much for snakes but I do understand they serve a useful purpose in an ecosystem. I usually don't bother them when I encounter them. Some years ago I read and article that said about 80% of snake bite victims were the result of the person trying to kill the snake. That's good enough reason for me to leave them alone instead of putting myself at risk of being a statistic. BTW...the most agressive snake I've encountered is the cottonmouth. You bother them and they will pursue you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Well, I guess if anyone there wants to relocate some rattlers, Chris Currie's yard would be a safe haven ...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods07 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 The most dangerous snake we have where I live is a Garter snake and I haven't seen one around my house in years. Giving my opinion on what I would do if I was in that guy's shoes would be pointless. I guess I wouldn't know what I would do. Sad story though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I am all for conservation of snakes of all kinds, with the exception of protecting your family/pets. It sickens me to see people killing any and all snakes for the sake of killing them because they have a irrational fear of snakes. What sense does it make to target one species and kill it for the sake of killing it? IMO it is ignorant to be so irresponsible. We as sportsman/women should not be so ignorant to overlook the fact that, we humans occupy the same ecosystems as other species. Snakes of all kinds are vital to the health and well being of any and all healthy ecosystems. I welcome all opinions of anyone who wants to say that i am nuts or whatever, I just hope that true sportsmen/women would not kill anything for the sake of killing it, or killing it because of ignorant fears. Additionally, the timber rattlesnakes that are here in West Virginia are very shy, and timid. Copperheads are the same way, they do not chase people trying to bite them, spewing poision as they chase. I have handled many many poisionous and nonpoisionous snakes over the years...the most aggressive snake i have ever handled has been a common brown watersnake, that is nonpoisionous. Snakes need protection from people, i believe this to the fullest extent. No need to get too worked up. These people that kill snakes and talk about it often will soon be complaining about crazy rat and mice problems in their homes and yards. I personally am not affraid of snakes and tend to pick up and play with most of the ones I find. The only ones that I have killed have been ones that I have found inside my dog's house and one that dropped in the fishing boat about 4 in the morning. Killing snakes because you are afraid of them is one of the most dumb excuses I have heard, but to each his own. I dont care what you do at your house with your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 There are no shortage of bad snakes around here, yet Tennessee has similar "vomit" Don. Our game warden was asked the question about snakes in a hunter safety course, basically he said use common sense. I think Alan is dead on on the cottonmouth too. I have had them come after me. Copperheads are almost as aggressive but not quite as bad. Certain times of the year they are worse. There are plenty enough rat snakes and black racers and other harmless snakes around to work on the pest problems, we don't need the venomous snakes in our yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUTSIDER Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I am not worked up, i just like to inform folks about irrational fears of snakes, and their importance to ecosystems. Ignorance is the enemy when it comes to things such as snake killings. Cotton mouths do swim towards crafts and such in open water...seeking a stable platform on which to bask in the sun, or search for prey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Cotton mouths do swim towards crafts and such in open water...seeking a stable platform on which to bask in the sun, or search for prey. Yep...and I can tell you 1st hand they will pursue you on land if they feel threatened. Had that happen more than once too and I wasn't trying to kill it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 It sickens me to see people killing any and all snakes for the sake of killing them because they have a irrational fear of snakes. What sense does it make to target one species and kill it for the sake of killing it? Nothing irrational in killing something that can and will kill you (or your dog or your kids) back. Makea perfect sense to me in targeting the species capeable of such. IMO it is ignorant to be so irresponsible. We as sportsman/women should not be so ignorant to overlook the fact that, we humans occupy the same ecosystems as other species. I occupy the same ecosystem as ticks, mosquitos, yellow jackets, rats and mice, too. I hold venomous snakes in the same regard. Additionally, the timber rattlesnakes that are here in West Virginia are very shy, and timid. Copperheads are the same way, they do not chase people trying to bite them, spewing poision as they chase. Most snakes are "shy and timid". I guess, after the fact, it matters not to the bite victim how it took place......just that it took place. Anything I can do to eliminate the bad variables from a snakebite equation is effort well undertaken. Snakes need protection from people, i believe this to the fullest extent. I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 No need to get too worked up. These people that kill snakes and talk about it often will soon be complaining about crazy rat and mice problems in their homes and yards. A: I don't want a snake controlling the mice and rats in my house. That's what De-Con is for. B: A snake is a hooribly inefficient and ineffective contol of rodent overpopulation. Mice and rats reproduce exponentially faster than snakes can eat them. One female rat can produce from 50 to over 100 offspring each year (not counting the offspring of those offspring). A big, mature black racer will eat about one rat every 2-3 weeks. Not a good argument for the rodent controlling properties of the snake......unless you want 100 black snakes in your barn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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