Norm Sauceman Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 That's why he has a cabinet.. He has other folks doing work as well... It is called deligating duties.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted February 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! You are not as smart as you think you are.. If you are in Politics.. You need to get educated FAST!!!! I am an Independent.. I have voted for Dems and Reps..BOTH!!! I think they should get rid of Democrat and Republicans all together.. why not just Americans?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! Now come on.. Are you saying that because I get offended (where?) so fast that I am a Republican?? I am sure it was not from the just above post was it?? That was NOT an offended post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! In defense of Norm, he is one of the least partisan people on here and I am definitely guilty of getting offended on here being a democrat and all, there's only so many times you can get called ignorant or a communist before you friggin snap. The only difference is my responses to the accusations were deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! Thanks Slugs.. I try... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! Norm, I wouldn't care if you were an ultra right wing neo-con, you've got Chris Farley in your avatar, so that makes you OK in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! It's better than having a President that would rather sit around and "smoke cigars" all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! heck jamesvee, clinton didn't smoke those cigars. they tasted like fish. lol... and bigbuck, i couldn't disagree more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH NNNNNNNOOOOOOO YYYYOOOOUUUUU DDDDIIIIIDDDDNNNN"""""TTTTTTTT!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13littleones Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! [ QUOTE ] Bush, i think put to much on the table. He want to fix so many things it is just to much. He want to fix social security, Has Iraq to take care of. And the natioal debt is outrageous. How many of you guys agree! [/ QUOTE ] Grab a pencil and paper and ask yourself ... Is social security going to be a problem in the future ? yes or no... Does the President need to take care of Iraq? yes or no.... Ask 5 or 500 people between the ages of 30 to 70..... if you have the disire.. Have you ever lost sleep over the national dept? yes or no.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! Dont take this wrong. I am going out on a limb here, but bigbuck, are you by any chance a student? If so I suggest learning grammar and spelling while you are still in school. Apparently you seem to think you are very knowledgeable on politics. I however do not see it. Your post on SS pretty well tells me you either are in denial or are ignoring what is very apparent. As far as the President, he has a full agenda and will try to accomplish a lot in his second term. That is a good thing. Before you fire back that I am a biased republican, I will tell you I am not affiliated to any party but do tend to most often vote republican as most often they do represent my opinions better than do democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! Only time someone gets on my bad side is when I or my family are personally attacked. Which has not happened. I can have a heated debate and drink a beer with someone all in the same timeframe.. It is just debating and only when people are childish and immature do they feel they have to personally attack someone they are debating with. We are so cool bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! I have a better idea... Let's not pay any aocial security taxes at all.. then we would not have the social security tax problem... raise my taxes..indeed...that is the solution for everything with you D>e>m>o>c>r>a>t>s> jk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! [ QUOTE ] I see that there is a problem with the system but the way bush wants to do it. i do not stand with the prez. I do know a lot about polictics you just might not see it. I do respect everyones opinion but do disagree with yours. I see the only way to fix the problem is raise the pay roll tax. Before you think that i am crazy. think of this. you pay more pay roll tax and then you get it back when you get social security.that is the best way i see and i have looked at a lot of options! [/ QUOTE ] With this kind of thinking it is one of the main reasons I will NOT VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!! Man, what rubbish!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! Ohhhh yeah. Lets just raise the taxes a little more. So what if they make a little more money, a little more tax won't hurt them. That's typical democrat thinking, and it gives me a sharp pain in my arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! OK bigbuck, now you have me confused about your thoughts. In another thread you say leave SS alone there is nothing wrong with it, now you say you realize there is a problem, but you dont like Bush's plan, which is really not even his plan. Come on buddy, which is it? Bush's plan is not anything set in stone and it is in the works. Raising taxes on those who are trying to support themselves to give to those are currently recieving benefits is not a fix to the problem and only compounds the problems. That is still kind of like robbing peter to pay paul so to speak. The benefits by raising taxes on us current taxpayers would only have a negative impact on the economy right now which would really likely snowball into more even more future problems. Do we really want to go backwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! [ QUOTE ] I have a better idea... Let's not pay any aocial security taxes at all.. then we would not have the social security tax problem... raise my taxes..indeed...that is the solution for everything with you D>e>m>o>c>r>a>t>s> jk [/ QUOTE ] Yes, Democrats like to raise taxes in order to pay for government spending, but what is worse, a tax and spend democrat or a borrow and spend republican, Bush is borrowing billions from foreign banks to pay for our programs. I personally would rather pay for our programs with our own money than borrow and have to pay back with interest. How much interest do you think a multi-billion dollar loan accrues. Everything comes down to spending though, government spending needs to go down, Clinton had one of the lowest government spending records in history, Bush has increased government spending by leaps and bounds in the last 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! that ain't sayin too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! [ QUOTE ] I toatally agree slugshooter. you and me think a lot alike! [/ QUOTE ] 2 X 0 = "0" LOL!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! sorry, guys. my above statement shouldn't have been made. can you get it off norm? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! [ QUOTE ] I toatally agree slugshooter. you and me think a lot alike! [/ QUOTE ] Slugo, I think you found a new friend brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyj987 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! Wait...slugshooter is right on one point. Bush ran as a conservative Republican--a tax-cutter and as someone who is fiscally responsible. I AM a Republican and DO support Bush, but the spending is definitely out of control. An increase in the payroll tax is NOT the answer, however. To raise taxes in this economy would be a disaster--after the tax cut SAVED the economy. There is nothing wrong with Bush having an aggressive agenda. Since he won't be seeking another term, he will be able to go full-bore on the social security issue without having to pander to the left. It DOES need to be fixed--even Bill Clinton has common sense about it. What we need to do is flat-out cut spending. We need to STOP government entitlements. Our nation needs to stop giving foreign aide to countries who do not allow their people to be free. This country has to stop giving money and benefits to those here illegally. Health care and social security go hand in hand. We need to fix health care NOW--and the prescription drug benefit was the wrong move in his first term--but there are other things we can do. First, we MUST cap medical liability. Many of the doctors I know are being sucked dry by the cost of malpractice insurance alone. Secondly, we have to allow small businesses to join together to buy affordable insurance for their employees--and get the same volume discounts that large companies get. Thirdly, WE have to accept some responsibility. Every time some people get the sniffles, they run to the doctor. Our own overreaction to things that don't need medical treatment is costing us BILLIONS. As far as military spending goes, that is COMPLETELY justified. The war in Iraq, even sans-WMD's was absolutely necessary to the stability of our nation, the Middle East, and the rest of the world. The war on terror IS a direct threat to our quality of life and every cent we send to our military is money well-spent. Like him or not, Bush has been a man of his word. He promised prescription drug reform and No Child Left Behind in 2000, and he delivered. He promised lower taxes--he delivered. Though I don't agree with all he's done, he has had the leadership ability to get done what he feels is necessary. If anyone can handle an aggressive agenda, it's Bush. I just hope he gets to appoint some Supreme Court justices soon! People need to use their heads. Nobody expected a 9/11. Sure, some "experts" saw it coming using their 20/20 hindsight, but nobody really knew a darn thing. That said, ANYBODY who would have been president in this time after 9/11 would have had a budget deficit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! [ QUOTE ] What we need to do is flat-out cut spending. We need to STOP government entitlements. Our nation needs to stop giving foreign aide to countries who do not allow their people to be free. This country has to stop giving money and benefits to those here illegally. Health care and social security go hand in hand. We need to fix health care NOW--and the prescription drug benefit was the wrong move in his first term--but there are other things we can do. First, we MUST cap medical liability. Many of the doctors I know are being sucked dry by the cost of malpractice insurance alone. Secondly, we have to allow small businesses to join together to buy affordable insurance for their employees--and get the same volume discounts that large companies get. Thirdly, WE have to accept some responsibility. Every time some people get the sniffles, they run to the doctor. Our own overreaction to things that don't need medical treatment is costing us BILLIONS. As far as military spending goes, that is COMPLETELY justified. The war in Iraq, even sans-WMD's was absolutely necessary to the stability of our nation, the Middle East, and the rest of the world. The war on terror IS a direct threat to our quality of life and every cent we send to our military is money well-spent. [/ QUOTE ] That little cut and paste right there is the best thing anyone has said in this part of the forums in months, no politcal BS no finger pointing just the cold hard truth. Our goverment programs are digging our grave faster than we can fill it in and the immigration problem here must be taken care of and done real quick before this boat starts to sink. ..............Well said Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Bush\'s 2nd term agenda! [ QUOTE ] I AM a Republican and DO support Bush, but the spending is definitely out of control. An increase in the payroll tax is NOT the answer, however. To raise taxes in this economy would be a disaster--after the tax cut SAVED the economy. [/ QUOTE ] Seems to reiterate what I said in my post on the idea of rasing taxes. Mark is absolutely right in his post in every aspect. Once again a great reply Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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