How do you handle it?


sluggunner

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I figure some of you guys might be in my situation. How do you handle it when you have a very close family member that goes on and on about how great Obama is and all of the wonderful things he is trying to do to help the country only to be thwarted by conservatives. They base all of their opinions on the information they get from the talking heads in the mainstream media. They are completly ignorant as to what is really going on in Washington and all they do is parrot back what they hear on TV from the news shows that fail to report any stories that are even slightly based on fact. I am so uncomfortable aroungd them, yet they are close family and I have to be with them. How should I handle this?

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I have family and friends with political views from both extremes. I have learned to change the topic or just plain ignore anything they say especially with family. I will never base a relationship on politics or religion so I end up making some humorous replies that are not negative and move on.

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Guess all you can do is attempt to give that person some factually supported reasons on where you see that they are wrong without telling them they are wrong. Give them an opportunity to open their eyes without looking like you are cramming your views on them. They will either be open to looking at the facts and they will open their eyes or they will be closed minded and will not be willing to accept the facts as they are.

If they choose not to look at the facts, there really is nothing more that you can do. Drop it and move on and opt not to discuss those political issues in the future to avoid squabbles.

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...how great Obama is and all of the wonderful things he is trying to do to help the country only to be thwarted by conservatives...

My reply would be "Uh, don't the Democrats control the White House and both houses of Congress? How can the Republicans stop anything?"

I know it will only make your liberal relatives madder. But then again, the truth usually does upset liberals.

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Much of my family is part of the slobering love affair with Obama. I've disowned my daughter and haven't spoken to her since the election. I can't believe she's that easily fooled. My mom has sinced become horrified with what's going on and I speak with her now. Because she contacted me.

Basically people that are that easily fooled and think we should serve government aren't worth being around. Probably not safe to be around either. They'll be helping put the handcuffs on you.

Mark

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Not sure I would/could turn my back on family based solely on their political views..... :confused:

I wouldn't part company with anyone based on politcal views either. They find my very lifestyle and beliefs appalling and want to eliminate them. When they get wound up and begin to tell you what they want to do it's downright scary. This isn't about political beliefs. It's about the dismantling and destruction of the constitution and christanity as we know it.

Mark

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Guess all you can do is attempt to give that person some factually supported reasons on where you see that they are wrong without telling them they are wrong.

Don't even waste your time trying to enlighten a liberal with facts (or common sense). Factual & provable arguments just make them mad. If they were interested in the facts they wouldn't be liberals in the first place.

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True true true true true...

Don't even waste your time trying to enlighten a liberal with facts (or common sense). Factual & provable arguments just make them mad. If they were interested in the facts they wouldn't be liberals in the first place.

I think you hit the nail right on the head. They are the most closed minded people in the world and follow like sheep clinging to whatever they are told and never willing to question the logic (or lack ther of) of the things they believe in.

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i simply ask them what obama did in his two years in the illinois state senate or the 2 years in the u.s. senate. what bill did he author, vote on, or what did he actually accomplish that gives you such a high opinion of him. remember, with 101 votes in the u.s. senate, he voted "present" 97 times. he did make the sole, yes single, yes vote on the bill to allow a botched late term abortion baby to die, 45 minutes after it was a breathing human being. the bill basically says you can kill a baby up to 6 months after it was born. only obama voted yes.

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I figure some of you guys might be in my situation. How do you handle it when you have a very close family member that goes on and on about how great Obama is and all of the wonderful things he is trying to do to help the country only to be thwarted by conservatives. They base all of their opinions on the information they get from the talking heads in the mainstream media. They are completly ignorant as to what is really going on in Washington and all they do is parrot back what they hear on TV from the news shows that fail to report any stories that are even slightly based on fact. I am so uncomfortable aroungd them, yet they are close family and I have to be with them. How should I handle this?

I like to fight fire with fire....Return the uncomfortable feeling to them in another light and then at the end tell them that's how they make you feel when they talk about politics....

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Be weary of those who can move the masses when simple facts are contradictory. So many things that many conservatives have been saying have been comingto fruition. Many of the libs in my office have regreted their initial support of O. If it walks like a duck, etc. guess what! Its a duck! Czars with no checks and balance and ACORN. What are we thinking!

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Many people go on and on and on about something because they are trying to convince themselves, just as much, if not more, than they are trying to convince you.:hammer1:

Chuckle:clown:...roll your eyes:rolleyes:...and walk away:pop:...

They'll typically give it some thought and convince themselves !

Their mind is your best argument.

Bob

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Here is a sorta related question.

You can get permission from a land owner to hunt on their property and it holds lots of big bucks. But you know for sure that they are big time obama supporters since they still have the signs in their front yard. Would you go ahead and hunt their place?

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Thing is a lot of the people that disagree with your political views are likely thinking the same thing about you that you think about them.

A lot of people think they have the "right" idea. From my experience I have found the truth to generally be somewhere in between.

I'd never be the one that let politics ruin a relationship with a family member. I'd just talk about something else as Nut indicated.

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Here is a sorta related question.

You can get permission from a land owner to hunt on their property and it holds lots of big bucks. But you know for sure that they are big time obama supporters since they still have the signs in their front yard. Would you go ahead and hunt their place?

you bet i would! there are liberal folks right here on realtree, and we can all get along fine even though we disagree on politics. i'm fine with that, and liberals should be also. why turn down great hunting over an un-related subject.. ie:politics. i'd just take a huge buck, put an obama smile on it's midsection, and let it rip!:boo:

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In a heart beat!

Here is a sorta related question.

You can get permission from a land owner to hunt on their property and it holds lots of big bucks. But you know for sure that they are big time obama supporters since they still have the signs in their front yard. Would you go ahead and hunt their place?

It would be my way of getting back at Obama as I know that owning a gun and actually using it to hunt with are both rights Obama wants to take away from me it would be sweet to rub it in his face by taking a deer off land owned by one of his supporters.

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I asked that question because for some reason I can get permission to hunt private land from a registered Democrat but always told no by registered Republicans.

Imagine that is all coincidental Fred, and may also have to do with your specific area. I have a neighbor up the road who I know for fact is republican, he lets just about anyone hunt his farm/land, matter of fact I don't think he says no to anyone who asks respectfully. That kind of is a problem because his property can get and has gotten a little overcrowded with folks at times. I have also let folks who have asked hunt on us, as I am sure other conservative members here on this forum probably have as well.

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I am not saying it is that way everywhere William. Just has been what I have experienced here. I was not saying that someone that is a registered Republican would give me permission eventually. Just has worked out they way so far in a county tilted mainly as GOP.

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