johnf Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 I've not been shooting long, but have practiced a lot and have pretty decent groups out to 60 yards. Last night was my first shot opportunity on a deer from my stand. I haven't shot out of my climber at all and didn't realize how much different it would be. After sitting still for 3 hours and cramping up two doe came out at 20 yards. I got up and couldn't get turned the way I wanted to because my harness was in the way. When I finally got turned they were still there, but it seemed like it took forever. I drew back aimed and released. The shot felt good and the deer took off. To make a long story short, I missed big time. By the angle that the arrow hit in the ground I must have missed about 6" under the deer. I don't know if it was nerves, though I don't think so, or bad form because of my position in the stand. One thing is for sure, shooting from a climber is nothing like shooting in the back yard. I'm going to be up a tree tonight in the yard shooting at a target to be better prepared for next time. I suggest you do the same if you haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiobuckhunter Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 i still shot good groups either way and i didn't practice when i first started but i have seen a diffrence at steep angles but not from 15-20 feet and 20 yards out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 I put my pin where I want it to go on the ground or in the air. I've never noticed a difference except at steep angles as was mentioned above. I used to stand up to take shots, nowadays 90% of the time I never get up on the stand, just keep my seat, draw and release. You are surely right though John, shooting from the stand is a lot different from the ground, but with some practice it's a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hold same form just remember to bend at the waist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Good Advice!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earnhardts12000 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 what i was gonna say bend at waist at steep angles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hold same form just remember to bend at the waist. I think you hit the nail on the head there. I know I've practiced doing it a thousand times probably, but not in the stand trying to move my feet around, being quiet, avoiding my safety harness strap. Not nearly as easy as I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Most times if you don't bend at the waist you shoot high. Add that in with deer jumping (actually ducking) the string and it makes it look really bad. I sight my bow to hit a bit low from the ground to compensate for the difference in the tree. You could also aim lower on the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 you do shoot different from the stand, B/c your higher up your shot will tend to be longer, if this makes any sense 20 yards from the base of your tree and 20 yards 25 ft up the tree is different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 When I range, I use a tree at eye level with me to get my ranges to get a true horizontal distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yup yup.. Maintain T form and bend at the waist. I also lost a slam dunk 23 yard shot on a big 130" 8 point last year due to my harness being in the way. I couldn't swing to my right to get off a shot because I'm right handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 you must hold that T form. too many guys draw their bow, then lower the sights to the deer. this makes your form differant when you were practicing from the ground. you must bend at the waist. this also means you must have a safety harness on in order to bend at the waist. the differance from a 20 yard shot from a 20 foot treestand and a 20 yard shot from the ground, is only about 1 yard differance. you can find the true distance by using a formula to find the missing side of a Triangle. A squared Times B squared =the square root of C. so a 20 foot stand = 20 feet 20 yard shot = 60 feet 20 feet squared is 400 60 feet squared is 3600 400 + 3600 = 4000 the square root of 4000 = 63.24 feet or 21.08 yards. this is the true distance from your stand to your target. while it can make a slight differance in your shot, bending at the waist is for sure the biggest problem most shooters have from a treestand. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewink Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 A couple other important things to remember is you may periodically through out the hunt may want to stand and draw. Work the cramps out, work those shoulder muscles(especially if you are bow hunting in a colder climate like myself) You also want to make sure that your gear isn't going to cause a problem. Depending on what type of climber you are using, the quarters might be a little tight, compared to a hang on. So standing and turning can be a balancing act the first couple times you do it. The other thing you can do is take an extra arrow along on your hunt. Before you get down. Pick a leaf out on the trail or area where the deer may be and pretend it is it's heart and let loose. Practicing in you front yard is good. But get it as close to your situation as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 you must hold that T form. too many guys draw their bow, then lower the sights to the deer. this makes your form differant when you were practicing from the ground. you must bend at the waist. this also means you must have a safety harness on in order to bend at the waist. the differance from a 20 yard shot from a 20 foot treestand and a 20 yard shot from the ground, is only about 1 yard differance. you can find the true distance by using a formula to find the missing side of a Triangle. A squared Times B squared =the square root of C. so a 20 foot stand = 20 feet 20 yard shot = 60 feet 20 feet squared is 400 60 feet squared is 3600 400 + 3600 = 4000 the square root of 4000 = 63.24 feet or 21.08 yards. this is the true distance from your stand to your target. while it can make a slight differance in your shot, bending at the waist is for sure the biggest problem most shooters have from a treestand. Tony I aint bringing a calculator to the stand, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewink Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 I aint bringing a calculator to the stand, lol. You could always get one of those nifty calculator watches!:poke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 One thing is for sure, shooting from a climber is nothing like shooting in the back yard. I'm going to be up a tree tonight in the yard shooting at a target to be better prepared for next time. I suggest you do the same if you haven't. Actually, for a lot of people, including me, it is very similar. You just have to remember to bend at the waist. If you just drop your bow arm, you'll miss all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodtrails Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 :hammer1::yawn::sleep1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNcrittergittr Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 I couldn’t agree more! Practicing for hunting encounters is absolutely critical not only for accuracy and proficiency but also for confidence. It makes a big difference when you are in the stand at the moment of truth, when it counts the most. It’s a great idea to practice as much as you can, shooting from your stands, out of your blinds and wearing the clothes you’ll be wearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 When your sitting in your climber. Your safety strap should be slightly taught, so when your standing up it will be loose. This should keep the strap out of the way of your shooting. I seen this on the DVD Summit had with the climber I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAarcher Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Like previous posts, It's all in your form. The angle unless steep doesn't affect distance that much. It never hurts to practice from your stand and work out all the kinks! A little practice and that next arrow will hit it's mark in the woods. Good luck man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Shooting from a tree you would want the arrow to hit slightly higher on the deer to angle through the vitals. So as long as the range isn't excessive and you aren't up high enough to get a nosebleed, just range and shoot the same sight picture as if you were on the ground and you'll kill him. It's pretty much self compensating. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdhiii Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 I don't use one, but my buddy swares and relies heavly on a pendalum sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 If I can...I prefer to shoot sitting anyways. Much more stable than standing...but keeping the "T" form is the key! I never aim anywhere I don't want to hit...on the ground or in a stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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