Tom2008 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 ....a no mans land on a deer. I guess thats what people call it. A spot where you don't hit any vital organs. Supposively its just under the spine and above the vitals. Like right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I'm not real sure bud. But I know I have hit that arrow and the dang deer lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Cold Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Last year I put an arrow through a shoulder on a very wide 6 point and had blood running straight down his leg and today he is still running! He will no longer come to my area but he is still living because a buddy found his sheds. That floors me because it was right in the boiler room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I've always heard that there was. Actually put an arrow right there on a doe once. Blood for 200 yards or so, then nothing. Two months later, one showed up on camera with a scar in that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) I've shot deer that have survived some pretty nasty wounds from the looks of the scarring. Some were rifle shots, some bowshots, but the worse were from fights during the rut and cat encounters. I hear the most complaints from guys who shoot 2 blade mechanicals from fast bows with light arrows. A two blade head will create a wound that can close quickly (if it hits and cuts along the grain of the muscle), unlike a 3 or 4 blade head. (That's why when you learn to knife fight you are taught to twist the blade 90 degrees while retracting it so the wound will bleed freely.) Also a light fast arrow sometimes takes off on a weird path through the animal. It's okay to experiment as long as you have the sense to go back to what is proven to work when you hit inconsistencies in your results. Products that rely on spectacular testimonies shouldn't be trusted. Things that work with boring regularity should. I know two guys that recently switched back to there old setups after difficulty with the latest and greatest. These guys are like me. They've killed more deer than chronic wasting disease. Mark Edited September 28, 2009 by m gardner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 It's never happened to me, but I have a good buddy that swears he hit a deer in that area. We tracked that deer for at least 3/4 of a mile and never found it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I read an article in a magazine that said the author shot one in that area and a week later the deer walked by the stand again but out of range. It had a clean spot around the wound that had no hair on it which he assumed the deer had licked away. I dont know anyone who has had that happen to them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Reguardless of what that pic shows...........YES, i do believe there is a spot there that is empty. I passed thru a doe last year that was a little high. Gave her an hour and got down. Good blood for 60 or so yards and then just faded out. 3 nights later she came by and I could see the hole. I couldn't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamoGuy Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I hit a 6 point buck in that exact spot about 6 years ago. He left a minimal blood trail that disappeared after 150 yards and I saw him in the field 3 days later eating. It is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) I agree that there is a spot above the lungs that is there while a deer is standing. Next time you field dress out a deer check and see how big the lungs are compared to the body size of the deer;) I geuss what I was trying to say was...I've never seen a lung that big ever come out of any deer I've killed before! Edited September 28, 2009 by GWSmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2008 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I hear the most complaints from guys who shoot 2 blade mechanicals from fast bows with light arrows. Mark you pretty muched summed up my Saturday morning. The reason why I ask this question is because I shot a doe Saturday morning and hit her right where I showed on the picture. The arrow didn't go through and didn't fall out from what I know. She was at 27 yards and I put the 20 on her back which would my 30 at the heart. You do the math and that should put the arrow right in the lungs. I've practiced the shot all year cause I knew it was very likely I'd have one between 20 and 30 this year. I don't know what happened, but I hit really high. I was using a VForce HV arrow with a 2 Blade Rage. A really light arrow going 290 fps with 60lb draw weight. Mark, the set-up you pointed out is exactly what I was using. Anyway we followed blood for about 50 yards. It wasn't bad blood at all, but there was a point when she must of stood still. The blood was really good in that spot. After that there wasn't anything to follow. We found a little bit more 10 yards to the left and that only went 5 yards. After that it was gone. No way I could tell where she went. We gridded the area, but absolutely nothing came out of that. I felt like crap and didn't go out for the evening. I'm switching back to my Easton Axis N-Fused arrows and not changing again. I realize I've made a mistake. I've definately learned something from this screw up. Thanks for all the answers guys. Really brought things full circle with the shot I made on Saturday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilhnter Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 It is very possible. I hit a doe in that exact place 2 years ago and there was no blood on my arrow shaft and no blood trail what so ever. Two weeks later my brother killed her. I had gotten a complete pass through on her, but it was above the vitals and below the spine. The wound was healing up really well when he killed her. So yes it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Scientifically there is no such thing as a "dead spot". I watched a show that anotomically it can't happen. The reason the deer don't die is due to broadhead malfunction or just plane luck. There are documented cases of deer living from perfect behind the shoulder hits. Usually only one lung or broadhead gets stripped entering etc......All the same people also don't see the picture clearly. What you think might be a right behind the shoulder hit, but they don't "see" the deer slightly spin before the hit or stuff like that. For instance how many times have you thought you hit a deer in one place and the entry hole ends up just a little "off" of where you thought..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods07 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 The reason the deer don't die is due to broadhead malfunction or just plane luck. Luck....like when you shoot a deer just above the vitals but under the spine and it doesn't kill them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Scientificially anything is possible..............I may have shot a doe with smaller lungs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2008 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Luck....like when you shoot a deer just above the vitals but under the spine and it doesn't kill them?? Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuckkilla89 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I shot a yearling doe 3 years ago I was on the ground walkin to my stand when she stepd out and I drew back and hit her a little high in the shoulder. My arrow was covered in fat and we found no blood. My buddy and I both saw the arrow hit and the shot looked good I dont know what the heck happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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