WaCoyote Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Here in washington state our new Dem Governor is trying to push through new gun laws. 1. We would have to register. 2. A pump action rifle with a removeable magazine is considered an assault rifle. (Along with a list of many others, including shotguns)So it must be kept on my property. It cannot be transported unless I can prove I'm going to a state approved shooting range. It cannot be transported with ammunition. It must be locked in a case for transport. What about hunting? Sorry, it's an assault rifle. 3. The local police can inspect my guns at any time once yearly to see if they are stored properly. No more wall hangers! I don't think this will pass, but it's scary! Thanks democrats! If I ever hear again that they don't want to take away my hunting guns I think I'll vomit. My best friend is a raging dem. Thats always the first thing out of his mouth. "They don't want to take away your hunting rifles! Oh Yeah! What about my pump action .270? If you vote dem and you love hunting and/or guns, you better consider this post. If you don't vote, your just not very smart!. Before you push this aside and say washington is a blue state, think again. About 2 or 3 counties in the whole state went blue. Those counties are dictating how the rest of us live. 1st no baiting for bears. 2nd no hounds for bears or lions. 3rd no trapping. 4th NO FRIGGIN PUMP ACTION RIFLES AS THEY ARE ASSAULT WEAPONS. Think people!!!! AND VOTE!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_218 Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] Here in washington state our new Dem Governor is trying to push through new gun laws. 1. We would have to register. 2. A pump action rifle with a removeable magazine is considered an assault rifle. (Along with a list of many others, including shotguns)So it must be kept on my property. It cannot be transported unless I can prove I'm going to a state approved shooting range. It cannot be transported with ammunition. It must be locked in a case for transport. What about hunting? Sorry, it's an assault rifle. 3. The local police can inspect my guns at any time once yearly to see if they are stored properly. No more wall hangers! [/ QUOTE ] Sorry to hear that. Why don't these Gun Control NUTS get it!! GUN CONTROL DOESN'T WORK!!! I have a elderly Cousin that lives in Bellingham, Wa. that use to be quite a Black Bear Hunter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control Yup..It is a proven fact.. Take the guns from law abiding citizens then it just leaves the criminals with guns... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control This is what I am saying all the time is that the hunter/shooter is at the mercy of the urban nerds! I live just across the river from WA in Idaho and there is a huge difference as to gun control and politicans. We did have some outsiders trying to ban bait for bear hunting and they hired people from out of state to get it on the ballot. It was defeated. As you can see by this even getting on the ballot, the liberals/democrats will try anything to stop and control guns and hunting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control They dont want gun control. They ultimately want gun removal! Gun control is just the language they use to make it sound good to the unsuspecting American people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaCoyote Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control Did you happen to read the law they are trying to pass? You must not have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!What good is a gun if you can't transport it with ammo????????? They may as well take them away. What more evidence do you need? We don't even get a vote. They are trying to push this through at the capitol. Put your blinders on, and don't admit it, but thats exactly what it is. Thats not Bias thats FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FACTS IS FACTS! I've never met a Biased dem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] Did you happen to read the law they are trying to pass? You must not have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!What good is a gun if you can't transport it with ammo????????? They may as well take them away. What more evidence do you need? We don't even get a vote. They are trying to push this through at the capitol. Put your blinders on, and don't admit it, but thats exactly what it is. Thats not Bias thats FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FACTS IS FACTS! I've never met a Biased dem. [/ QUOTE ] We can scream about your FACTS all you want there not facts though just a steriotype. quick question what is the political status of a certain gov. in california that banned some guns recently??? Another question for our politicaly astute friend from washington, what party does the Brady bill stem from??? Come move to Ohio where your politicaly correct friends in the republican party have voted three times against our guns in the last four years. The point is that there people on both sides of the line who want to take our guns, just as there are people on both sides who hunt fish and enjoy the outdoors. so there is a triple dose of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] [quick question what is the political status of a certain gov. in california that banned some guns recently??? Another question for our politicaly astute friend from washington, what party does the Brady bill stem from??? Come move to Ohio where your politicaly correct friends in the republican party have voted three times against our guns in the last four years. The point is that there people on both sides of the line who want to take our guns, just as there are people on both sides who hunt fish and enjoy the outdoors. so there is a triple dose of [/ QUOTE ] Good point CH. I personally don't want any politician that supports gun control, regardless of party, in a position of power. If they can't see the ignorance of gun control, then I have to wonder what other basic, common sense issues they may turn up on the wrong side of??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [quick question what is the political status of a certain gov. in california that banned some guns recently??? Another question for our politicaly astute friend from washington, what party does the Brady bill stem from??? Come move to Ohio where your politicaly correct friends in the republican party have voted three times against our guns in the last four years. The point is that there people on both sides of the line who want to take our guns, just as there are people on both sides who hunt fish and enjoy the outdoors. so there is a triple dose of [/ QUOTE ] Good point CH. I personally don't want any politician that supports gun control, regardless of party, in a position of power. If they can't see the ignorance of gun control, then I have to wonder what other basic, common sense issues they may turn up on the wrong side of??? [/ QUOTE ] You make a good point there as well tex, I have found many young people are against it just because its what they hear, after having a sound conversation on it many change there opinions about it. propaganda does alot of harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaCoyote Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control Well kick them out then, complain as loudly as I am. A Democratic Governor is trying to pass this law without my vote. No, I can't speak to Ohio, or Cali. And yes I'd complain then too! But I'm talking Washington. Seems to me a dem pres. passed an assault weapons ban that a rep. pres. would have struck down had congress tried to renew it. Seems to me the dems have completely lost the south and yes, it has a lot to do with gun control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control no matter the party, we don't want gun control. but it does seem to me that most gun controll laws are initiated by democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] My best friend is a raging dem. [/ QUOTE ] I used to have that problem! LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13littleones Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control Doctors: (A) The number of physicians in the U.S> is 700,000 (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000 © Accidental deaths per year per Physician is 0.171 Statistics courtesy of the U.S. Dept. of Heath Human Services. Now think about this: Guns: (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. Yes that is million. (B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups. Is 1,500. © The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188. Statistics courtesy of F.B.I. Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. FACT: NOT EVERYONE OWNS A GUN… BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS A DOCTOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] Well kick them out then, complain as loudly as I am. A Democratic Governor is trying to pass this law without my vote. No, I can't speak to Ohio, or Cali. And yes I'd complain then too! But I'm talking Washington. Seems to me a dem pres. passed an assault weapons ban that a rep. pres. would have struck down had congress tried to renew it. Seems to me the dems have completely lost the south and yes, it has a lot to do with gun control. [/ QUOTE ] Seams to me you didnt read much about the AWB then or your certain presidents stance on it....so dont give me a this complain like i do stuff....bush said he would re-sign the bill into law if it made it to his desk. once again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] They dont want gun removal you repulbcans are so bias! [/ QUOTE ] Sorry pal, I am not a republican. I am an independant, who most often votes republican. Seems republicans are more likely to look after my best interests, but I ultimately vote who I think is the best candidate for whatever the position. I would suggest you do a little research on just who initiates the majority of the anti gun ownerhip sentiment in this country. I guarantee you it is not the republicans who are among the majority that push gun control issues. If you cannot see what has happened in other countries with gun control going to the extreme to gun removal you are blind and in denial. Saying it wont happen here and not acknowledging there are those lawmakers who do want ultimately to see that we have no rights left to bear arms does not help gun owners in keeping our rights in any way. You really need to wake up. Hey Aaron, [ QUOTE ] there not facts though just a steriotype . [/ QUOTE ] Caught ya bud LOL. Stereotype . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control Ahhh......with the way i type it was only a matter of time...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_218 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] They dont want gun control. They ultimately want gun removal! Gun control is just the language they use to make it sound good to the unsuspecting American people. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with you here! It not GUN CONTROL but rather PEOPLE CONTROL (when they take away all the guns) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] What good is a gun if you can't transport it with ammo????????? [/ QUOTE ] Is that ammo period, or is that ammo actually in the gun, which, unfortunatley people are stupid enough to do that, that's why it's a law. Here in NC I can transport a loaded weapon in my vehicle if I have a concealed carry permit, I really don't feel like transporting ny 12 gauge and having a slug tear through my vehicle or me if it gets bumped or goes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control [ QUOTE ] Seems to me a dem pres. passed an assault weapons ban that a rep. pres. would have struck down had congress tried to renew it. Seems to me the dems have completely lost the south and yes, it has a lot to do with gun control. [/ QUOTE ] You don't follow politics much do you, a Democratic president signed a law which was supported by every living former president, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford and your current president said repeatedly that he would resign it if it came to his desk, the only difference is, he didn't want to lose the votes if he pushed for it. Aaron, it seems to me that Bush could support the AWB all day long and say he would sign it all day long and these guys have no problem with it on the sole basis that he didn't push for it in order to keep the gun vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control not a bad move, if you are right slug. it's the nra vote that got bush in. why p... them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control I have guns. I have MY guns. All of my guns were purchased LEGALLY.. I'LL BE DARNED if I will let ANYONE take my guns I legally have... NO matter WHAT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaCoyote Posted February 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control Carbonhunter, You were right about Bush saying he would resign. I miss spoke. I had to leave for a couple days to cool down. I do find it interesting though, that you will really try to say that Democrats and Republicans have the same viewpoint on gun control. I just can't see being an outdoorsman who is supporting the same party that is supported by most antigun / antihunting people. Maybe local policies are way different there than here. I took the bait and got all in a hissy and all I really wanted to do is say look out, this is really happening. And it happens to be a Dem sponsored bill. slugshooter, The deal with transporting the weapon: It has to be locked up during transport. And cannot be transported with ammo. It doesn't say loaded, it says cannot be transported with ammo. I don't think this mean all weapons. This refers to assault style weapons only. However, any slide or pump actions with a detachable mag would be considered an assault weapon. Whether they be rifle or shotgun. Truth be told, I didn't care about hi-cap magazines or whether a certain gun had a flash suppressor before, but this is getting scary now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyj987 Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Re: Dems and Gun Control wacoyote, I would certainly be frustrated as well. It's hard to believe that a state as beautiful as Washington has so many politicians with their heads up their rear-ends that they can't even appreciate it. carbonhunter has some great points as usual. It's not just Democrats, but moderate Republicans as well. Though Democrats are more likely to support gun control, there are nanny-state supporters on both sides. As far as Bush goes, this is another thing (besides immigration and spending) that tick me off about him. I REALLY don't think he supports the AWB...and highly doubt he'd sign it now that he's been re-elected. My thought is that he was simply politicking when he said he would. On gun control, even great leaders like our president are spineless. They're afraid to be "pro-gun" as the libs call them because it feeds the stereotype (and they exist on both sides) that Republicans are gun-wielding racist rednecks who thinks we should starve children and want to kill old people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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