Being White and Proud means Bad?

[WvBowhunterKE]

Thank you Steve for pointing that out LMAO :bang:

[Ravin R10 man]

Yup Im WITE and Im BAAAAAD!!!..LOL

[Swamphunter]

???? caucasian is white, and it's a race.

Well said.... not sure what he was referring to, but good response Steve

[GWSmith]

Caucasian American...who qualifies for no government programs except taxes.

[csualumni21000]

Where are white people from? What people groups do you consider of the white race? What about people from Portugal?

[wtnhunt]

Where are white people from? What people groups do you consider of the white race? What about people from Portugal?

White people are from all over.

Caucasians are all those folks who are not of a designated other color race, most surveys/questionnaires/applications that I have seen that ask race do give the option for white(caucasian)/black/latino.

Portuguese are latinos if I am not mistaken.

[csualumni21000]

White people are from all over.

Caucasians are all those folks who are not of a designated other color race, most surveys/questionnaires/applications that I have seen that ask race do give the option for white(caucasian)/black/latino.

Portuguese are latinos if I am not mistaken.

WTN white people are from everywhere? That makes no sense, clarity what nations you consider white.

Are native american white? If my mother is from Great Britian and my father Native American am I white enough to be white? WTN you should think before you post something. Portugal is in Europe. Where are Latinos from? What does Latino mean?

Please previous posters, define what the white race consist of and who qualifies. The definition you come up with really says what your definition of white and proud means.

wvbow are Itialians white?

[wtnhunt]

WTN white people are from everywhere? That makes no sense, clarity what nations you consider white.

Are native american white? If my mother is from Great Britian and my father Native American am I white enough to be white? WTN you should think before you post something. Portugal is in Europe. Where are Latinos from? What does Latino mean?

Please previous posters, define what the white race consist of and who qualifies. The definition you come up with really says what your definition of white and proud means.

wvbow are Itialians white?

Latin is from Europe, more specifically from Rome is it not? What do you consider Latin? Who more fits the latino description than those who actually derived from true Latin roots? Spain is part of Europe is it not? Are Spaniards not latino? Seems that there is a misconception here as to what Latino means and maybe some confusion as to "Latin America" meaning "Latino". Does this mean that Spaniards from Spain are not of Latin roots?

My great grandfather came from Belgium, and also have German and English roots, but my family has always been kind of darker than most white fair skinned folks, does that mean I should check other if that is an option rather than Caucasian(white), when filling out information? The Caucasian race is made up of people from all over the world, would probably not be too wise to say what particular nations or nationalities are specifically "white".

Who qualifies to be white? Have you never filled out an application where it gives you options for race? When you do not fit any other category, what do you put? Guessing Italians could call themselves Caucasians or they could also call themselves Latinos or could call themselves other, that would be the choice of that person and not for me to decide.

[csualumni21000]

WTN use a dictionary-1 : a native or inhabitant of Latin America

Wtn what do you consider the white race?

[GWSmith]

WTN use a dictionary-1 : a native or inhabitant of Latin America

Wtn what do you consider the white race?

Latin is generally understood to be "of Latin Descent".. therefore "Latino" is commonly used as slang in the American version of the English language to refer to anyone of Latin Descent.

Also since there seems to be some misunderstanding here is your Dictionary definition of "White":

2 a : being a member of a group or race characterized by light pigmentation of the skin b : of, relating to, characteristic of, or consisting of white people or their culture c [from the former stereotypical association of good character with northern European descent] : marked by upright fairness

Everyone on the planet bleeds red blood...grow up and get over the entire "Race" issue.

[wtnhunt]

WTN use a dictionary-1 : a native or inhabitant of Latin America

Wtn what do you consider the white race?

You have your perspective which I really am not sure what exactly it is, and some other people have differing perspectives which is fine. Takes differing opinions for there to be debate and obvious your opinion or use of a definition is not the same as mine and apparently not the same as some other folks either, don't think that makes either of us necessarily wrong.

As for resources, you apparently have not read what I posted, Latin is derived from Rome and latino according to several sources is "of latin decent", not exclusively to "Latin America" as it seems you believe and also from your source which surprises me if it has only the one definition as I have not seen any dictionaries give just one definition for the word latino and I have looked at a few in the past few minutes since you mention dictionaries. You posted the first definition, I am taking it your source/dictionary had just that one and no further definitions, and maybe did not mention anything about the derivation of latinos as defined as those from spanish speaking countries? Just fyi, might check some other sources, here is one that goes over distribution of Latino's as well as what the word means in other languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latino.

You did not answer any of my questions, however I attempted to answer yours as best as I could based on my own opinion and also on reliable references and will not continue repeat myself, if you wish to read my posts you will see that I have already answered your last question.

[The_Kat]

csu-whats your point in your arrogant posting? I can see your viewpoints are different than most of the posters in this thread, yet I can clearly see your disrespectful tone in your posts.

[dance.and.shoot]

What about people from Portugal?

Why are you picking on Portugal? Does Portugal have special meaning to you or something? just wondering.

WTN white people are from everywhere? That makes no sense, clarity what nations you consider white.

WTN you should think before you post something. Portugal is in Europe.

so why can't they be European Latinos then?

Latin is from Europe, more specifically from Rome is it not? What do you consider Latin? Who more fits the latino description than those who actually derived from true Latin roots? Spain is part of Europe is it not? Are Spaniards not latino? Seems that there is a misconception here as to what Latino means and maybe some confusion as to "Latin America" meaning "Latino". Does this mean that Spaniards from Spain are not of Latin roots?

Okay. I hesitate to even say this, but you're talking about who and what I am. I have a lot of countries in my ancestory...including Italy and Portugal. I also have many English countries in my ancestory. my ancestors from Portugal are (and yes i'm going to say it) white.

You can look at my pictures and decide for yourself. I choose to believe that i'm an Italian American Caucasian Latina girl. I usually mark the caucasian box because i am more white than anything else. but that doesn't mean ignore the other part of me. if people ask me what i am, i usually tell them that since it's really hard to fit 'Italian American Caucasian Latina' on one line, I usually say that i'm Caucasian. if they ask me to explain, i'm more than happy too.

No one needs to be judged by the color of their skin. Not all Native Americans are bad...not all whites are good. I don't judge by the color of skin and I hope noone judges me by mine...it would just confuse them.

People should be judged on their actions and who they are. not what they are...there's a big difference there, and sadly many people don't know the difference...

These are the things that make this country great. we're not forced to be anyone. we can be who we want to be...

one if my friends is as white as you can get...but on the inside, that girl is black!!! and i'm not being racist by saying that. i'm just stating a fact. and when other black people tell her she's black, she takes it as a compliment.

Personally, i think that black can be an attitude. it really can. I'm part of a hip hop group at at a local college here. I don't do hip hop...and one of the white instructors noticed that. All he said was "Breanna, think black."

there were dark colored (black) people in the class. they just laughed and said "that's right Breanna. you need to be more black. stop being white!"

As weird as it may seem, I took that as a compliment. It's an attitude. there are some blacks that act as white as white and some whites that you'd think they got their skin lightened. It's just how they act.

Also, I know many African Americans that say, "i'm not African, i was born in America...i'm American. not only am I an American, i'm a black American" and they're proud to say it.

I'm just saying...

Edited October 26, 2009 by dance.and.shoot

[dance.and.shoot]

csu-whats your point in your arrogant posting? I can see your viewpoints are different than most of the posters in this thread, yet I can clearly see your disrespectful tone in your posts.

I was about to say the same things...watch the tone man...not trying to be rude or nothin' but you're not going to succeed in anything on here but making enemies. Get your undies out of a bunch and don't get pissed that other people have different opinions than you. believe me, it'd be a lot worse if everyone agreed with eachother.

Take a couple minutes, cool down, then come back and we can all discuss this like the adults we are! okay? :)

Edited October 26, 2009 by dance.and.shoot

[csualumni21000]

Latin is from Europe, more specifically from Rome is it not?Yes

What do you consider Latin? Latin and Latino are different terms.

Who more fits the latino description than those who actually derived from true Latin roots? Napoleon III coined the term, Latin America .

Spain is part of Europe is it not?Yes

Are Spaniards not latino? No, Latino is a direct reference to Latin America.

Seems that there is a misconception here as to what Latino means and maybe some confusion as to "Latin America" meaning "Latino". Does this mean that Spaniards from Spain are not of Latin roots? People from Spain can be considered to have Latin roots but are not Latino.

My great grandfather came from Belgium, and also have German and English roots, but my family has always been kind of darker than most white fair skinned folks, does that mean I should check other if that is an option rather than Caucasian(white), when filling out information? Caucasian is not a true race but a classification for politicall purposes.

The Caucasian race is made up of people from all over the world, would probably not be too wise to say what particular nations or nationalities are specifically "white".

Why are you doing that. This is my point,"The Caucasian race is made up of people from all over the world, would probably not be too wise to say what particular nations or nationalities are specifically "white"". You will not define who fits into your definition of white.

Have you never filled out an application where it gives you options for race? Yes

When you do not fit any other category, what do you put? I put European decent.

Guessing Italians could call themselves Caucasians or they could also call themselves Latinos or could call themselves other, that would be the choice of that person and not for me to decide.

I am a Christian, Soldier and an American. I think it is just plain stupid to define ones self by the color of his or her skin. If you are proud of English decent or Japanese decent that is fine. If you are proud because your skin color is a certain shade or lack there of what does that make you?

Edited October 26, 2009 by csualumni21000

[wtnhunt]

Everyone on the planet bleeds red blood...grow up and get over the entire "Race" issue.

Could not agree more Gary. Don't guess I have ever really understood why some people are so quick to misjudge or even judge others in the first place when discussions of race come up. Think sometimes a lot of things are read in and sometimes unfortunately a bit of pre judging goes on which I am not so sure makes a person who is involved in such all that different from the ones that those same people may seek to label as racists.

I am a Christian, Soldier and an American. I think it is just plain stupid to define ones self by the color of his or her skin. If you are proud of English decent or Japanese decent that is fine. If you are proud because your skin color is a certain shade or lack there of what does that make you?

I agree 100 percent on that with you and I think if you go back and look at all of my posts you will not see anything I have said that gives any reason for anyone to think otherwise.

Some things that you have to admit though, you do see new patient forms at physicians offices and hopsitals, children's school applications and paperwork, job applications all with the question of race, do you ignore those question on those applications, does it make you a racist for filling those out as best as you think possible? Are you calling yourself a color when you do fill those out? What really is the difference in this? Is it defining yourself as something by acknowledging what questions are asked and does that make you guilty of being racist? Lots of questions, and people can and do have differing views. To better understand how someone else thinks, you might try asking yourself those very questions.

[csualumni21000]

I would like to know what being "White and proud" means? White has no heritage to point to. Being proud of you Japanese or Irish heritage can have it's positives. I can show you what Irish culture consist of but White has no culture to point to. If you folks can define what White heritage there is then I could understand what you are proud of. If people divide themselves based on skin color then division is all we will ever have.

I would define myself as American. It is my country of origin and what my culture is based on.

[csualumni21000]

I chose Portugal because it is in Europe and most folks would have to think about it before they spoke.

I ignore all race questions unless they are medical. Some illnesses are more common in some races, but if really look at it what is considered white is so heterogeneous that it is of little value to a doc. But if you are more specific then it can really play a part in treatments and diagnosis.

I have been discriminated against and hate racism. I think Rush Limbaugh was a victim of discrimination. I think being "White and proud" is not going to help the situation.

What is racist

a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

[dance.and.shoot]

I chose Portugal because it is in Europe and most folks would have to think about it before they spoke.

Yeah, that makes sense now. it just seemed a little strange that you'd pick a country that was small compared to others. didn't know if you had ancestors from there or something. Makes sense though.

[wtnhunt]

I would like to know what being "White and proud" means? White has no heritage to point to.

I could be wrong, but think the original rant here was meant to be sarcastic, sarcasm stemming from what the poster pointed out in his original post. I also agree with you that I am proud to be an American.

Right or wrong it seems it is society that deems you as white, black, hispanic/latino, or other why else would we continue to have such questions if that were not the case. So long as that continues and so long as those who use skin color to hold issues with those they view different from themselves there will continue to be these type rants and discussions.

[The_Kat]

I'm white and proud of it, I'm American and proud of it, and I'm southern and proud of it. I'm not a thug, or a criminal, and I wear my pants above my buttcrack....thats all I have to say.

[johnf]

Where are white people from? What people groups do you consider of the white race? What about people from Portugal?

I'm not seeing what your point is there.

Fact: Indigenous people in different parts of the world look differently. People in Scandinavia are generally tall, blond, blue eyed and the women......uh well never mind. Central and southern African's generally have dark skin, black hair and brown eyes. Asian people, well look Asian. Anglo/Saxon people well, they are generally known as white. Middle easterners look middle eastern.

To not acknowledge that there are differences is ignorant. No people are any better or worse nor has more or less worth. But we are different and will see each other as different regardless of our banter about "not being racist". It's not racist to see differences, it's racist to treat another differently because of those differences.

Edited October 26, 2009 by johnf

[csualumni21000]

Who makes up the white race is my question. Johnf, your definition is Anglo-Saxon?

[johnf]

Who makes up the white race is my question. Johnf, your definition is Anglo-Saxon?

You are correct. Pretty much Anglo-Saxon decent and Most Eastern European decent and Scandinavians are generally thought of as white.

Do you see a Chinese person and see a Chinese person, or do you see an Asian. I see an Asian, I don't know if they are Chinese, Japanese, Laotian, Vietnamese or whatever. They are Asian to me. I don't know enough about their physical differences to distinguish one from the next. I can generally tell the differences between Scandinavian, English, French, German and eastern European though. I can also pick out where most Americans are from by their accent. Does that make me racist? No, it makes me aware of their differences. Like I said before "seeing and acknowledging differences is not racist, treating people differently for those differences is."

[Swamphunter]

I'm white and proud of it, I'm American and proud of it, and I'm southern and proud of it. I'm not a thug, or a criminal, and I wear my pants above my buttcrack....thats all I have to say.

Im not sure if I like this post the best from Kyle or this one...

csu-whats your point in your arrogant posting? I can see your viewpoints are different than most of the posters in this thread, yet I can clearly see your disrespectful tone in your posts.

But they are both good! Thats why I like you Kyle....