countryboy89 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Hey guys i smoked a huge doe at 4yds tonight put it right behind her shoulder and found puddles of blood at first i thought with the rage 2 blade and the hole i saw in her when she took off she was dead. my cusion was sittin about 100yds from me and he even heard the thawck and said dead deer. well i waited a good 45 mins and started finding puddles of blood then we started finding drops of blood bout 70 yds from the stand then out in the field we only found one drop and that was it we crilced that field for 2 hrs and couldnt find her idk what happend. the last deer we have shot this year have been really fatty idk if the hole plugged up with fat or with it bein so close my bow is to fast idk kinda pissed me off i thought these rages really did there trick but idk sry for long post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Sorry for your loss of the doe...thats always a hard pill to swallow! On another note...rest assured it wasn't the rage heads fault. The shot was either not where you thought it was...or you just lost the blood trail. If it was a good shot...she's gotta be there somewhere, any broadhead shot through the vitals of a deer will kill that deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem308 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Sorry for your loss of the doe...thats always a hard pill to swallow! On another note...rest assured it wasn't the rage heads fault. The shot was either not where you thought it was...or you just lost the blood trail. If it was a good shot...she's gotta be there somewhere, any broadhead shot through the vitals of a deer will kill that deer. I have to agree with Snapper on this subject. Things happen and so many variables can come into play on a shot (even at 4 yards). I have seen the fat plug up an entrance/exit wound before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger-Hunter Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I doubt highly that what was spewing blood and leaving puddles would be able to clot. It may have just diverted from spurting out to bleeding internally. sometime deer will double back on their trail and then hop off that trail and will be laying 50 yards away. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskybnd Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 if you made a good shot on her, she is dead some where around the area id keep looking, a rage cuts a pretty good size hole in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 single blade Rages make a slit that can close and seal off blood. Another sad Rage tail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiepredator Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 That always sucks when that happens. 4 yards is pretty close! A friend of mine actually shot a mule deer doe from 3 yards away this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy89 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 ya we made a huge cirlce around and couldnt find her ino it was a good hit cuz i saw the hole idk if it was the fat and with the 2 blade bein so thin like tink said if the fat did plug it up or not what do u guys think of the 3 blade instead of the 2 blade what ones better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I've killed several deer with the 2 blade rage heads...never had one "seal" up. Either way...lets humor the idea...even if the hole (2") plugged with fat...the deer isn't going to make a recovery! Any deer shot through the vitals will be dead...very rarely beyond 100 yards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwana72 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 countryboy89....You may have called it with the fat. My buddy shot a doe last week , he had great blood at first and then just a drop here and there...then nothing at all. Fortunately after about an hour of just looking for her, he found her. When he looked, the shot was five, but the exit hole was completely plugged with a hunk of fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'd keep looking...she may have back tracked...may be in some thick stuff...look by water if there's some near by... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 She has got to be there somewhere dead. Don't give up on her yet. I'd go out and take another look maybe with another set of eyes as well. Always helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 A 2" hole will not sill off, it may get plugged up with fat or something else. I've got a great picture of fat in a hole with my desktop picutre in the lounge. It looks like guts but is truly a large clump of fat. He went down witin 80 yards but didn't start bleeding until 40 yards from the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 My guess is you hit her high and she's bleeding internally. Was the arrow sticking out or was it a pass thru? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Even that close a flinch can really ruin a shot. There are a lot of factors that go into the shot. All you can do is live and learn. Ive lost one deer and it was to a .30-30. Ive never carried another into the woods. Live and learn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy89 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 it blew right threw her i went out this morning and couldnt find anything walked all over checked the swamp nothing. guess the slit just sealed up with fat or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 May have hit bone and did a sliding richochet. May have missed vitals even though the shot looked good. Think about the angle and if the shoulder bone might have caused the arrow to slide around instead of pass through? Just another possibility to put out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Sure you didn't hit a little low and hit the brisket. Those brisket shots bleed like crazy at first and then start thinning out? With all the excitement sometimes it is hard to know exactly where you hit. sorry about the loss--I know it makes you sick. todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Like was said previously..........if she was lung hit, she'd be laying close. So she must not be. Going back 45 min. after the hit may have bumped her out and she put some ground between ya without bleeding enough to find it. Also a lung hit should not have large hunks of fat filling up a hole. Deer just don't have that amount of it around their rib cage normally. The Rage is kinda getting a "cure all" reputation and it is far from that. No broadhead is. I am curious if you can give more info on the specifics of the situation like angle, ground or treestand, kind of arrow (light vs. heavy), what your arrow looked/smelled like, etc..... Something must have gone arye somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYmathewsman Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) There just isn’t something adding up. As previously mentioned the ribcage area typically carries a minimal amount of fat. And even if it was fat that would have to be a pretty big piece to block up the hole that a rage makes. Again I don’t know a lot of specifics about the shot, but I saw something 2 years ago that sounds somewhat similar to what you describe. My cousin shot a doe that, at the moment he took the shot, turned to lick her hind end. After the doe was hit she turned to run. Initally the deer bled a lot but then just stopped after 75 yards. We found the deer 150 yards away. My cousin had made a perfect shot. Its just that when she turn to run she closed the hole and prevented any blood from coming out. When field dressing her we found all of the blood was in the chest cavity. Again I don’t know the specifics of your situation and it might be possible that the fat plugged the hole (I know stranger things have happened). But like the others have said if it was a vitals hit shes around there. Good luck and keep your chin up it happens to the best of us. Just learn from this experience and you will be that much more prepared the next time you make that shot. Edited October 20, 2009 by NYmathewsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I've killed several deer with the 2 blade rage heads...never had one "seal" up. Either way...lets humor the idea...even if the hole (2") plugged with fat...the deer isn't going to make a recovery! Any deer shot through the vitals will be dead...very rarely beyond 100 yards! exactly im having a hard time believeing that a two inch hole closes up from fat, more than likely if you saw what you saw that doe is dead within a hundred yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUTNSTRUT Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 If you "smoked" her you would have found her,it's not the B.head it's the shot placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownec Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I did about the same, from about 10 feet away with full pass through. The went almost straight down. Very little blood. After I searched for a while looking for turned dirt and leaves I found her about 60 yrds in thick brush. It turned out that the Rage did it's job, but the exit hole was so big the liver plugged the hole. Not much blood at all, and after having her come in so close I was worried. Sorry about your loss, I fed coyotes last year in KS so I know how you feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt03 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 if you were 20 ft up in a stand and shot a deer at 4 yrs i'm guessing one lung and they can go miles with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitteken Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I've shot numerous deer straight through the boiler room that didn't bleed worth a darn, but they've all been dead within 80 yds. Depending on angle they don't bleed until the chest cavity fills up and by then they're stone dead. If you truly got her in the vitals she's balled up somewhere close. But like someone said, single lung hits are a pain to recover and the deer can go a long way, many aren't recovered. Also i've had deer bleed good for the first half of the recovery distance then nothing the last half. I attribute this to a death run. When they sense they're done their adrenaline pumps up and go on one last run til its lights out. At a high rate of speed blood doesn't accumulate and is hard to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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