Jeramie Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I wouldnt replace the barrel either. If its a level gun youre really after just go get it. You know you didnt need the forums to justify it for you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I wouldnt replace the barrel either. If its a level gun youre really after just go get it. You know you didnt need the forums to justify it for you... Nope, my biggest question was about the recoil. I think she can handle it, she's pretty dang strong, and tough, so she should be good to go. I showed her a pic the other night, and she seemed to like it, so when I get back from Florida, think I'm gonna do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 If it bothers her pickup a recoil pad. However, it shouldnt be to bad. Just make sure you use a lighter bullet. That should help cut down on the recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Nope, my biggest question was about the recoil. I think she can handle it, she's pretty dang strong, and tough, so she should be good to go. I showed her a pic the other night, and she seemed to like it, so when I get back from Florida, think I'm gonna do itI've found also (for target/practice shooting anyway) my boys, 12 &10 shoot way better with really good ear protection on. Like big ear muff style ones as apposed to the little orange plugs we always use. I think the combination of the loudness AND the recoil gets them jumping and pushing shots even more. Take away one and I know my oldest is way better. Of course, in the tree stand he won't have that but his brain will be used to it and your usually only talking about a single shot, not several which starts making him jumpy. LOL!:walkman: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinhood Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Look into the 7mm08 and 140grain bullet should real good gun for her short stock very little kick and she will be ableto use it for Years to come. She will be able to get a lot more distance and knock down power then the 243. And 3030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modillo Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Distance is not going to be further than 100yds, so that is not an issue. What has me wondering is Fri night we had two bucks at 30yds, and when she shot, I do believe she hit a twig on a cedar tree that was right in front of us, and deflected the bullet, best as I can tell. I know that with a 30-30, that won't happen i have seen 30-30's deflect on a twig. tho i am not diminshing the old workhorse. it is one of my favorite choices. and yes i can shoot and kill a big buck with a 30-30 at 300yds, and yes thats pushing it with that old gun. tho you have to lob it out there, and then wait a week for it to arive on point,:clown:, it is one of the better choices out there for a recoil senceitive shooter. and besides that they are just plain fun to shoot. and get a good lever gun, and a set of dies, and a good slug, pick a load out and you can do alot for that old cal. i used the hornady 150 interlokts over 28.gr of imr 30-31. i created that load for a very old 30-30 my grandpa has. and for another 3030 we had. and they work perfectly. for a 16yr old girl who is going to be shooting under 100yds i would put the 30-30 in her hands and make her learn how to shoot a gun like that with iron sights. the trajectory is completely different from the .243 win. in stead of flat and fast, its arches. and that in it self can throw you off if your used the a high power flat shooting rifle such as a 243. but if you plan on shooting beyond 50yds then i would say stay with what you have, or maybe step up to a .270 short mag. or let her try the bigger guns to see if she likes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Since you have access to the 30-30 think if it were me I would let her shoot both and see which one she shoots better. Bottom line if the gun is more comfortable for her, she will shoot it better whichever one that ends up being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Look into the 7mm08 and 140grain bullet should real good gun for her short stock very little kick and she will be ableto use it for Years to come. She will be able to get a lot more distance and knock down power then the 243. And 3030 +1 I looked for the 7-08 when I got the kids a .243 and couldnt find one like I wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 The 7mm-08 has crossed my mind, but not knowing how much any of my kids are gonna hunt with me, I'm not gonna go out and buy a gun. Now if this continues to be a something she does, then I just might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 i have seen 30-30's deflect on a twig. tho i am not diminshing the old workhorse. it is one of my favorite choices. and yes i can shoot and kill a big buck with a 30-30 at 300yds, and yes thats pushing it with that old gun. tho you have to lob it out there, and then wait a week for it to arive on point,:clown:, it is one of the better choices out there for a recoil senceitive shooter. and besides that they are just plain fun to shoot. and get a good lever gun, and a set of dies, and a good slug, pick a load out and you can do alot for that old cal. i used the hornady 150 interlokts over 28.gr of imr 30-31. i created that load for a very old 30-30 my grandpa has. and for another 3030 we had. and they work perfectly. for a 16yr old girl who is going to be shooting under 100yds i would put the 30-30 in her hands and make her learn how to shoot a gun like that with iron sights. the trajectory is completely different from the .243 win. in stead of flat and fast, its arches. and that in it self can throw you off if your used the a high power flat shooting rifle such as a 243. but if you plan on shooting beyond 50yds then i would say stay with what you have, or maybe step up to a .270 short mag. or let her try the bigger guns to see if she likes it. The .30-30 arches at 100yards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I can't believe you said that john....had to read it twice...lol Your coming around! It's like useing a 16oz hammer rather than an 8oz to nail a 16 penny nail. Both would do the job, but the bigger one is more effective. I'm not talking about using a 10lb. Sledge hammer. :hammer1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinman802 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 i would stay with the .243 i have one and have killed tons of deer with it. they have good range too and LITTLE to NO recoil. ive killed 3 deer at 320 yds and dropped every one of them dead in there tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinhood Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I'm acually shooting the remington model seven and it's such a great gun I've had no problems with it I've been shooting it for 4 years now and taken 7 deer with with it. Two of my cousins are using it and my dads good friend owns one but a diff make and it's his favorite gun he owns he's the one who told me about it. I will get with him on the make and get back with you but there's really not much difference just price. It shoots real flat at 200, 300 yards. I'm shooting 140grain nossler with mine and none if my deer went over 50 yards. I'm sure you mite no but it's a 7mm bullet necked down to a 308 casein check in on it. I no you child will like and bet you will take it out your self haha. It's just an all around. Bug game and little game. I no it will be hard for me to go out abd get a new gun. One more thing it does come in a childens stock and u can upgrade but there's really no diffence. It's nice and short easy to move around with but still has the distance you will want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I have a Marlin 30-30 and a Browning BLR in .243. Hey, what can I say, I love my lever guns. Both guns have excellent performance but when I walk out the door to go deer hunting, I almost always grab my Marlin. The new LeveRevolution bullets give me 1" pattern at 150 yards. Plus these bullets have thump down range. I usually don't take the .243 unless there is snow on the ground because it makes a smaller hole. One other factor you may want to concider is ammo price. A box of decent .243 ammo at GM is running anywhere from $29-$39. LeveRevolution is $22, and that is $2 more than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I One other factor you may want to concider is ammo price. A box of decent .243 ammo at GM is running anywhere from $29-$39. LeveRevolution is $22, and that is $2 more than last year. However, a box of Remington Corelokt will easily get the job done and leave a decent sized hole for around $15 - $16.... Ive never been a big farn of Premium bullets unless I handload them. They simply are not needed on game like whitetail. I could see someone shooting them on a once in a lifetime hunt but on a regular hunting situation the extra money is not needed. Ive killed countless deer with a Remington Corelokt. I have also killed with Winchester Super X. They will get the job done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 However, a box of Remington Corelokt will easily get the job done and leave a decent sized hole for around $15 - $16.... Very true! However the corelokts are the old school round nose bullets for the 30-30. Great for 100 yard shots but after that . The leveRevotion bullet are pointed which allows for better flight. Lets have a shoot off at 150-200 yards and see which bullet patterns better. Granted we are are talking about a 16 year old new shooter but with time and experience she will learn how to shoot long range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse8953 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I would go with the 30-30.:rolleyes:Maybe keep the 243 and buy the 30-30 and you still have what ever option you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earnhardts12000 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 i would go with .308 little or no kick range is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modillo Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 The .30-30 arches at 100yards? Yes a 30-30 has an effective range out beyond 100yds, for those who dont think a 100yd is a long shot, or a hard shot. instead. you have to aim like you would at 100yds but takes more skill and patience. its not hard. whats hard are shots that go beyond 750yds, when your are taking shots at 100+yds at the closest to about 800yds, on an average. get a 30-30 and set targets and differing ranges from 50,100,125,150,175,200,250,300yds. and then come back to the discussion table and present your findings. but for those who are recoil sensitive, or who are not taking long distance shots the 30-30 is the old stand by, amo everywhere, Affordable and easy to load. and it will teach those who dont know how to shoot with iron sights.with out any adverse effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Very true! However the corelokts are the old school round nose bullets for the 30-30. Great for 100 yard shots but after that . The leveRevotion bullet are pointed which allows for better flight. Lets have a shoot off at 150-200 yards and see which bullet patterns better. Granted we are are talking about a 16 year old new shooter but with time and experience she will learn how to shoot long range. For the .30-30 the Lever rounds are much better. Still, Id stick with the .243 and Corelokt. However, I will say I bought some flying ashtrays for a .30-30 once, and they were Remington, im pretty sure they were Corelokt. It knocked some nice sized holes in deer. However, the only deer to date ive ever lost was to a .30-30 flying ashtray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22_LR Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I actually use a 30-30 now because I am 14,and its in bolt action.Way more accurate then a lever action 30-30.Ive dropped man a deer with it and would never touch a 243. Thats my $0.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elnor Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) My wife and I both find 30-30 recoil to be practically non-existent, and that's with us shooting the same old early 1980's Marlin 336 with a hard butt pad that I got when I was 12 or 13 years old as my first deer rifle. And we both love the balance and feel of the Marlin lever guns, incomparably better than many bolt actions IMO. I bought a Winchester model 70 in 300WSM a few years back so I could "reach out and touch" critters at distance. Then a couple of years later Hornady brought out the LeverEvolution in 30-30 and I tried it; I killed five deer with it that first season (one good sized buck and the rest does) and was sold. Turns out that for most of the whitetail hunting I do, I should have just stuck with my old trusty Marlin 336 and I could have bought an awful lot of LE ammo for it, plus some binoculars or something to boot. :-) With proper practice and bullet/ammo choice, both 30-30 and 243 are fantastic deer killers. I agree with others who've suggested having her try both and going with whichever feels "right". She'll shoot the "right" gun more, probably noticing the recoil less and that will lead to more practice, in turn leading to good killing shots. Either way, have fun taking her shooting and hunting! Edited December 2, 2009 by elnor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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