huntinman802 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 i got a ram rod stuck in the barrel of my muzzleloader and cant get it out. it is a traditional so the breech plug cant come out. does anybody know any tricks to get it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I got ya, I'm assuming you were cleaning it right...and there is prob a patch on the end of it too. I'm not sure what bore cleanner you you but I use number 13, Just put the tip of the bore cleaner bottle on the end of the ram rod and start running some cleaner down the rod and into the barrel to wet the area.. might even run some warm water down it if you dont have bore cleaner If it's not a stuck patch let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinman802 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 k thanks. i dont have any cleaner right now. wont the warm water rust the barrel if i still cant get the rod out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) do you have a patch in it?....if so I whould bet the patch will come out with rod. ALSO, If i'm correct your gun is a side lock, you should be able to unscrew the port the nipple attaches to, the patch chould be hung on that. It's shouldn't be a serious issue, if the patch and rod just wont come out and you try water, turn the barrel upside down and drain it, then go pick up some cleaner if you want to try that, but if it is a stuck patch and warm water wont break it free, then you might have it snagged on the nipple port(if that makes sense), happened to me with my old sidelock. and once it's out go ahead and give it another cleaning to make sure all the water is out. OH and welcome to the forums Edited October 21, 2009 by MichiganHunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinman802 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 ya it does have a patch on it. ok i will try to take the nipple and stuff off and see if it comes then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinman802 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 no. the port doesnt come out. the nipple comes out but thats it. the barrel and the port are one piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) ok, just go stright to the warm water or if you want to wait and go get cleaner you can do that too but if you wet the patch, it'll come out for ya. I cant belive that the port and barrel are one piece, I had a hawkens and that had notches so you chould put a wrench on it, but ok go to the cleaner or warm water. Edited October 21, 2009 by MichiganHunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinman802 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 the nipple comes off but thats it. it is a thompson center "new englander". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) ok...well go for the water/cleaning solution. I get patches stuck all the time and the cleaning solution or water softens it up and pull it out all the time. Edited October 22, 2009 by MichiganHunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontierGander Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 just pour water down the bore and push the ramrod forward, actually give it a smack, then pull. If you need some extra grip use vice grips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 well? did ya get-er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Welcome to the forums. If you try water, might try a little dawn dish soap in that water, might help with getting the patch to slip/loosen up in the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowtech Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I have had this happen to me on a TC New Englander... I ended up putting the rod in a vise... assuming you used a cleaning rod and not the wooding rod that comes with the gun... twist the rod and pull .. usually it will break free.. usually a half turn or so will work .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Come-on dont leave us hangin did ya get it out...lol...got ta know if i helped ya...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinman802 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 nope that dang thing aint moving a bit. im thinkin im gunna take it to a gunshop cuz i dont really want to screww it up and at least if they screwed it up then id at have someone to blame it on. lol but thanks for everything guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 If you have access to a compressor you might try forcing some air through the nipple as you pull on the rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinman802 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 ya we have a huge compressor at the farm. i might try that this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I dont know how much water or cleaning solution you put down it but try this fill the bottom half of the barrel with the cleaning solution and let it sit for say a an hour or so, cause it sounds like it's locked out and if the patch was wet it might have gotten a little fussed to the crud in the barrel, Then try pullin on it and you might want to try putting it in a vise to pull, I whould say lock the rod in the vice...tightly and twist the gun so it makes the rod rotate, just make sure you dont rotate it so the cleaning head unscrews from the rod. I whouln't take it to the shop just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinman802 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 i hit the end of the rod and pushed it down farther and was able to pull it up to the same point it was at, and cant get it any further out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 keep nocking it down and pulling it up..if it's crud i'll break free...but it still sounds like it's hung on that nipple port....but keep working it and see if it knocks out the crap....if you can get it you might have a more serious problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Man if you put that water down the barrel and have not gotten it out yet I would strongly suggest taking your ml in somewhere and getting it out so you can properly get that barrel cleaned and dried out. Since you already had the water in there a little dish soap might have helped things slip. Personally I probably would have used some type of lube like break free clp or rem oil or something rather than using water in the first place. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I'd have tried a CO2 discharger, if it was me. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45-70cannon Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 TC sell breech pullers. I've never had to do that, because I've always been able to break the patch free. What the guys are tellin ya to do works! And I use a pair of vice grips around a rag at the top of the rod and pull fer all ya iz worth. It does come out. Sounds like ya got a ring of crap built up where is just gets to a narro point, which is why it ain't movin, but keep workin that rod up and down and add more liquid (use some dish soap) and that'll loosen the crud ting and then use a brsuh on the bore and get that stuff out of there. In the future, beware cuz it'll happen again. Y need to swabo the bore inbetween your shots, or in between every third shot to stop that from happening, so when you go and clean it, it'll be better and ya won't get the patch stuck like that again.:hammer1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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