Ethan Givan Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Hey guys, I was shooting my deer rifle the other day to get it ready for next month. I shot it at 100 yards and it was hitting perfect. I moved out to 200 yards and I was hitting about 3.5 inches low, which I expected from looking at the ballistic charts. But at 200 yards I was also consistantly hitting about 1.5 to 2 inches right. The wind was blowing left to right at about 8-10 mph. Do you think it was me or the gun hitting off, or was the wind drifting me over that much?? I was shooting a .308 win with 150 grain winchester power points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterbobb Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 It was the wind. Effects of wind drift increases exponentialy as the distance to the target increases. In other words. The farther you are from your target the more wind becomes a factor in you sighting equation. :gun2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csualumni21000 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 A little of both or possibly your zero is off some. Try and zero at 200 for amount left or right and see if it changes your 100 zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyohunter Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 it was the wind, dont change your zero, or you will be moving it constantly...... wait untill you have a calm day and shoot at 200 again,.... you'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 it was the wind, dont change your zero, or you will be moving it constantly...... wait untill you have a calm day and shoot at 200 again,.... you'll see I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 it was the wind, dont change your zero, or you will be moving it constantly...... wait untill you have a calm day and shoot at 200 again,.... you'll see I agree. me too! The longer the shot the more the wind will impact your bullet. Of course the weight of the bullet will affect this too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeviShot Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Like they all said it was the wind.Ive been shooting a 308 since I was 12.I love a 308. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Most likely the wind, but if you don't have your gun/scope level when shooting, that will also have some effect on the left to right impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dance.and.shoot Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Do you think it was me or the gun hitting off, or was the wind drifting me over that much?? it was you Ethan, it was all your fault...you don't even know how to shoot a gun... jk bud!!! (and you was totally asking for it...ya know that right!) okay...so i admit. it wasn't your fault. i agree with the others that it was the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Thanks guys. I was pretty sure it was the wind but I didnt know if it would drift it that much. it was you Ethan, it was all your fault...you don't even know how to shoot a gun... jk bud!!! (and you was totally asking for it...ya know that right!) okay...so i admit. it wasn't your fault. i agree with the others that it was the wind. Yeah I knew I had it coming...but I thought you would do a better job than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dance.and.shoot Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Thanks guys. I was pretty sure it was the wind but I didnt know if it would drift it that much. Yeah I knew I had it coming...but I thought you would do a better job than that I'm trying to be Christ-like and not say anything mean...it's not going to well...i slip up and say not so nice things like this everyonce in a while...oh, and i'm saving all my energy up for something really good!!! besides, there's kids on this forum...i have to keep it PG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'm trying to be Christ-like and not say anything mean...it's not going to well...i slip up and say not so nice things like this everyonce in a while...oh, and i'm saving all my energy up for something really good!!! besides, there's kids on this forum...i have to keep it PG Whatever :yawn: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dance.and.shoot Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Whatever :yawn: :jaw: I can't believe you whatevered me...we just had this talk last night... :no: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 :jaw: I can't believe you whatevered me...we just had this talk last night... :no: Better get used to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dance.and.shoot Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Better get used to it Psh....:hammer1: (p.s...that's ME hitting YOU...not the other way around!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Thanks guys. I was pretty sure it was the wind but I didnt know if it would drift it that much. Actually with a legitimate 8 - 10 mph crosswind I'd expect the drift to be more. What you are describing is what a 6 - 7 mph crosswind would cause. If the wind isn't perfectly left to right, in otherwords, angling towards you or away from you then the effect is that of a much slower wind. Angle is absolutely as important as speed! That's what makes shooting in wind so difficult. Unless it's howling, at distances 200 yds and under, wind won't cause a miss on a game animal. Most of the time you can get away with ignoring it out to 300. I know lots of guys that missed shots barely over 200 because they over compensated. 300 and over? Nope, you can't ignore it. You better know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 The shape of the bullet also affects the ability of the wind to blow it around. Try some round nose bullets, they really drift.(22 rimfire high velocity are terrible) The wind at your back or blowing in your face will affect impact height to a small degree too. Like what was said, shoot on a calm day. Then go shoot in the wind to see what happens. We shot lots of prarie dogs all year long when I lived in Colorado and got to be able to read wind pretty well. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Actually with a legitimate 8 - 10 mph crosswind I'd expect the drift to be more. What you are describing is what a 6 - 7 mph crosswind would cause. If the wind isn't perfectly left to right, in otherwords, angling towards you or away from you then the effect is that of a much slower wind. Angle is absolutely as important as speed! That's what makes shooting in wind so difficult. Unless it's howling, at distances 200 yds and under, wind won't cause a miss on a game animal. Most of the time you can get away with ignoring it out to 300. I know lots of guys that missed shots barely over 200 because they over compensated. 300 and over? Nope, you can't ignore it. You better know. Well Im not guarenteeing you that it was 8-10 mph...Im just making a good educated guess based on what I saw on the weather earlier that day and what it felt like out there. It very well could been 6-7 mph. Id love to shoot the calm day, but good calm days without much wind doesnt happen real often here. I wont be taking any shots at deer past 200 yards, so Im not too worried about it. If the wind is blowing pretty hard I just wont take a shot at that distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleA Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 While not having the exact numbers ,ie velocity& bullet BC it's hard to say but a 5 mph full value wind can move that bullet appx 1.75"at 200yds. Anemometers or at the very least wind flags will help with gauging wind speed while on the range. Dealing and understanding wind is one of the harder things to learn in shooting, practicing in real world conditions is the only way to learn. Dont be afraid to shoot on windy days, you will learn by doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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