diverlover Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Falling Skies # 4 I just bought and watched. The focus of th DVD was to kill as many ducks as possible in as short a period of time as possible. Just loved dropping 25 dollars on this to watch the rednecks who don't call or shoot very efficiently use the terms "kill" and "slaughter" about 50 times on every pass. Just what a true waterfowler does not want to see. Plus it was shot in my home province, and these clowns were all visitors. There was no focus on anything but the carnage, and no attention paid to shooting drakes only!! Very bothersome to see 40 hens dropped out of that video. My beef is: IF YOU CAN HAMMER DOWN A LIMIT IN 45 MINUTES- PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU SHOOT DRAKES ONLY. Why put a dent in next years populations by shooting the egg-layers!!!??? I don't get it. Anybody with me here? Confused in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 No, not with you. What do you want to see on a hunting video? If you want to see what you do and how you hunt video yourself and watch that. Males play pretty much a huge role in the reproduction as ducks as well. Watching the video right now, will comment more once I am done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I lied, only have 5 and 6 here at the new home. Pretty much the same format and hunt styles as the first 4 videos. They try and kill their limits as quick as they can to keep the pace of the DVD up. Who wants to sit there and watch a hour and them only kill one duck? Video editing also plays a huge roll in how fast they kill waterfowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Our duck hunting is pretty much hit and miss here, depending on migration. Ive never seen any of the videos, but id be happy to kill any duck, drake or hen..why should I hold off so somebody can shoot ten a day somewhere down south? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverlover Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I am talking about the attitude moreso than the harvest really. The fact that they just bash out a number and brag about it, and are done shooting rather than sharing time together and putting some yummy ducks on the table. I would imagine they give all the meat to a local foodbank and scout for the next days hunt, foregoing that side of the game, (plucking/breasting).:hammer1: My point was, it just casts a bad view of hunters, being an avid waterfowler, I love letting the hens fly. I feel so good shooting drake limits. Doesn't happen all the time, but hey, I can eat a steak if I am that hungry with only 3 -4 greenheads in my game bag. These guys don't seem to get it, and the constant barrage and banter of "kill'em" is just way over the top. Have only heard that from Americans, why not "take 'em"??? I go hunting with friends to enjoy nature, learn from mother nature, and lastly to harvest birds for the table. The limits where they shoot are high(8 birds/man/day) and odds are good you limit on drakes before 10 am where they hunt. Yes, drakes play a obviously good part of reproduction, but they account for 60% plus of the population, so selective harvest is crucial when pounding down 60+ birds a day for purposes of a video enterprise....would you not agree? Just puzzled by the whole compunction of these guys to accentuate the value of numbers, be it a drake or a hen... My 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 To each his own. I am positive these guys go out and have one heck of a time building on relationships of friendship every single time they go out. When the population starts to hurt they will change the regs. Biologist and environmental experts seem to keep a very close eye on the population of waterfowl and change regs accordingly. They hunt their way, you hunt yours. They are also in the money making business trying to put food on the table for their familys doing the things that they love to do. If that means taking a lot of birds quickly on video and hootin and hollarin and show their excitment on camera to keep the interest of the viewer, so be it. You will now know not to buy their video again. I know I will continue to purchase the videos as they come out. I love watching them and being jealous of them on their awesome hunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goosekiller83 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 foiles videos suck compared to zink all jeff wants to do is kill as much as possible which isnt bad but they kill hens which is stupid. zink videos are way better made and have alot more action. i dont like people that go out and have to shoot hens just to produce a video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitcha_some Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Foiles is trash and its reflected in his videos, all they focus on is kill kill kill...how many times have u seen them shoot ducks repeatedly till they hit the ground even though the bird was done after the first shot...him and his crew are a bad image, why do u think new rumors come out every year about him shooting over limits and stuff like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisha Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Our duck hunting is pretty much hit and miss here, depending on migration. Ive never seen any of the videos, but id be happy to kill any duck, drake or hen..why should I hold off so somebody can shoot ten a day somewhere down south? Ditto. We are nowhere near the migration route so the number of birds we see are nothing like what would be seen out West, so therefore we don't hold back on the hens. We shoot to put food on the table. As mentioned before, if and when numbers start dropping dramatically, I'm sure regulations will be put in place not to shoot hens. Until then, they'll keep finding their way to my plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhead_hunter Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 dont hate I like foiles videos and his calls, if it flies it dies this isnt drake hunting its duck hunting, and a hen qualifies, I use to never shoot hens until I found out that budweiser put a million dollar band on a mallard hen, now if she comes swingin around me in range shes dead, lol, there has always been a rivalry between foiles and zink I prefer foiles. but to each his own, I know big shawn left zink and went to foiles and now hes a champion. hmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitcha_some Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Big sean is not a champion...hes gotten second place about 3 years in a row now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse8953 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 "I found out that budweiser put a million dollar band on a mallard hen" Where did you hear about that?No one I have talked to has heard of the $1,000,000 band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhead_hunter Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 lol well hes doing better now than he ever thought of, fred zink just took advantage of him and I dont think zink was in 1st in any of them contest big shawn placed in, and I have heard about the 1,000,000 band from quite a few people, whether its true or not im not sure but Id hate to know I missed a payday cause I wanted to pass on a hen just because thats what everyone perfers to do, there are plenty of hens out there, if it flies it dies, and if it just sits there it dies too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 and if it just sits there it dies too. You shoot birds on the water ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhead_hunter Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 oh my i wont just shoot a bird on the water, but every now and then you get a random duck that justs sits there even after youve hollered and screamed, if its a slow day and he wont leave yeah ill shoot one on the water, its not illegal, its not sportsman like but its not illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddCountyKiller Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Everone is saying that Jeff is about "Kill ,Kill,Kill"? Why are ya'll out there for, to paint each others toe nails?? So your sayin that if all hens fly over you, your not gonna shoot? That is stupid. Ill take a duck of ANY gender of ANY breed. As long as you kill them and stay within the limit I dont see problem. And Jeff puts his time and money into more than just killin. He has helped charities, land managment, ETC. No I am not friends with Jeff and tryin to back my buddy up. I have never even met him. But the man must be doin something right being his is a world reconized hunter/ callmaker. Do us a favor, just stay up north... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhead_hunter Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 hahahaha very well put, Its duck HUNTING not bird watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenOfTheMarsh Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 You're not going to like me You do your things, I'll do mine. I don't get out that often, I sure as **** am not picking and choosing, if I'm lucky enough to get a bird to decoy I'm gunna make a hard attempt to knock it down (some times that doesn't happen *blush*). Then it immediately goes in the frying pan when I get back to camp. I'm not all about killing, I like the other things that come along with hunting - watching the sunrise & set, watching various wildlife out and about, bsing with buddies, etc. I actually get yelled @ a lot for 'bird watching' - I'm always taking pictures and distracted - I don't pull the trigger all that often. Had a beaver swimmin' around in the decoys last weekend, kept smacking the water with its tail .... that was pretty neat to see. I'll smack a hen and I'll smack 'em on the water ... if they refuse to flush when I whistle. Couldn't offer my $0.02 on the DVD mentioned, I never watch them, because I find 99% of hunting shows/dvds to be incredibly lame - that's just me. Doesn't sound like I'm missing out on anything. Safe hunting everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhunter39 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 i can understand what your saying about all this kill kill kill , carnage . carnage , from a beginners or a novice point of view it might look demonic from the way birds are falling out of the sky . can you imagine on how long it would take or on how many DVDs it would take to make a video , if they didn't edit each hunt , it would be falling Sky's A, B ,C , etc . I'm sure that they keep a few birds to throw on the grill , and the rest goes out to feed the hungry , i don't see a problem with that , i share my game with others , thats what hunters do , they feed their people , it would be like saying that a dairy farmer needs to have only one cow to milk just for his family , but no a farmer gives milk to all , and as for shooting hens , deer hunters also shoot doe's ( i know it's spelled does ) , and shooting ducks repeatedly , he state in one of his videos why , it's easier to find a floating dead duck then one that injured and swimming through the corn trying to get away . p.s the Sky's are falling ps,ps , i don't know Jeff foilies personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 there are plenty of hens out there, if it flies it dies, and if it just sits there it dies too. So your probably the same guy that shoots the fork horn just to shoot a buck right???? knucklehead that has no clue about management.......:hammer1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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