davetucker Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 The wife and i had to go out of town on a buisness confrence for the past three days!! While i only had one meeting yesterday morning she was all day in meetings!! I live 4 hrs away from cabelas and was going to be within 10 miles of the one in maine!!With the ammo situation as it is a bunch of buddies gave me a big ole list to pick up while i was there!! So of course the ammo is in the gun section!!As i looked one of the salesmen approched me and we talked!!I was hearing alot of good things about all the 7mm rounds(ultramag,mm08,rem.mag) so was kinds wanting to add one to my collection!!As i talked i set my eyes on a bdl with walnut stock, man what a beautiful rifle!! We talked and the salesman showed me the adl that was on sale!!I really liked the bdl(or atleast the looks)!But after talking with him and he convinced me the adl was the same thing with just as good accuracy for less money!!A salesman trying to sell me a cheaper rifle i thought it must be true!! After reading some reviews on it i have read alot of mixed reviews!!So is it remingtons junk model 700!!I got a 770 and all the junk hype about that i really like how smooth and accurate it is!!So if i could get some feedback from my fellow rt friends it would be greatly appreciated!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Had an ADL Synthetic in .270 Win for a while. It shot VERY WELL for a factory gun or anything else. It was a consistent 1"-1 1/4" gun at 100 yards with Wal-Mart Green-box Core-Lokt's....both 130 and 150 grains. It was, however, a P.I.T.A. to hunt with. It had no floorplate. I had a 1-piece Redfield base on it and it was about impossible to load with cold or gloved hands. The bolt was not smooth at all. I'm used to running a bit more refined weapons. So I sold it and never looked back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmbernskoetter Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I have a Remington Model 700 BDL in a 7mm Rem Mag, it's a synthetic stock with stainless barrel with a muzzle break. I have owned the gun for about 10 years and I love it. I owned a 22-250 in an ADL and did not like it nearly as much. BDL rifles have at minimum a hinged floor plate, mine actually has a clip that drops out the bottom (a very nice feature). My rifle is very accurate and has hardly any recoil due to the muzzle break. If you are going to shoot a magnum load I highly recommend the muzzle break, people think I'm joking until they shoot my gun but it is like shooting a 20 ga (no kidding). I would go for the BDL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 They are alright guns for the money. My cousin bought one about 3 years ago and he really likes his. He has killed a few deer with it. If you want a good gun to beat around in the bushes chasing whitetails...then its perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse8953 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I got a 7mm mag,270 and a 243 all black adl's and they all shoot fine.I also have a 22-250 in a bdl, it seems smother in the action but I like the adl's because I don't have to worry about banging them up when hunting.I don't think you can go wrong for the money on a adl.How do you like it? That is what is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 after a long day inside the crane i got a little time to actually go try it out!! If the floor plate is the only diff than i got an awesome rifle!! I have a 300wsm in the xcr rmef and in my opinion the only diff is the floor plate!! i shot 10 rounds through it and after the first shot the thing was a tack driver!! It felt good shouldered and the recoil was comparable to the 30-06 rem. i got!!I have several high end rifles that hardly make it out of the safe and i wanted this rifle to use!! I am starting to hate the thought of buying a toy to keep tucked away in the safe!! So i guess it's the rifle for me!!I am just glad it doesn't have the reputation of the 770 or 710!!!Thanks for your input friends!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 There is nothing wrong with a 700adl. Ive owned a few. They are very accurate and solid. If I were shooting comp I wouldnt use one but for hunting and the sorts they are 100% worth the coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem308 Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'm a big fan of the Remington 700 line, and the ADL is what started it for me. I got one of these rifles 11 years ago, chambered in .308. I still have it and love it. I have no complaints at all: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Had an ADL Synthetic in .270 Win for a while. It shot VERY WELL for a factory gun or anything else. It was a consistent 1"-1 1/4" gun at 100 yards with Wal-Mart Green-box Core-Lokt's....both 130 and 150 grains. It was, however, a P.I.T.A. to hunt with. It had no floorplate. I had a 1-piece Redfield base on it and it was about impossible to load with cold or gloved hands. The bolt was not smooth at all. I'm used to running a bit more refined weapons. So I sold it and never looked back. Been deer hunting with an adl in .270 for several years now, never been an issue with not having the floorplate for me. Bolt on mine is just fine too. Get good groups with 150 grain core lokts. I hope to add another model 700 to my collection in the future. The adl and bdl are the same gun Dave only difference is the stock, a floor plate can be added to an adl for under $70 if I am not mistaken. The 710 and 770 are not model 700's and yes they are the lower end remington lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterbobb Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 The adl and bdl are the same gun Dave only difference is the stock, a floor plate can be added to an adl for under $70 if I am not mistaken. You are partly right but partly wrong. The adl and the bdl are the same gun except for the stock. However, you can't just bolt a floor plate onto an adl and make it a bdl. The stock will require extensive modification to make the floor plate fit. The Adl has a reinforced screw guide for the front action screw that needs to be removed before the floor plate can be installed. It is a lot of delicate work and you are better off just buying a bdl stock. If you choose this route you might just as well but the BDL to start with. :gun2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 You are partly right but partly wrong. The adl and the bdl are the same gun except for the stock. However, you can't just bolt a floor plate onto an adl and make it a bdl. The stock will require extensive modification to make the floor plate fit. The Adl has a reinforced screw guide for the front action screw that needs to be removed before the floor plate can be installed. It is a lot of delicate work and you are better off just buying a bdl stock. If you choose this route you might just as well but the BDL to start with. :gun2: Kit for dropping a floor plate in an adl http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0024317226539a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Product_liberal&QueryText=700+adl+floor+plate&sort=all&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1, does require minor inletting. You would then have an adl with a floorplate, still not a bdl though as you point out Bob. Could be wrong, but think all bdl's have walnut stocks, and run a couple hundred dollars more than adl's, barrel and action on those guns are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterbobb Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) The term minor inletting is relative. Plus with this particular kit they are referring to a stock that is already cut for a floorplate. For an ADL it is minor compared to repairing the space shuttle. I assure you though, the job is way beyond the skills of the average joe. Plus by saying the BDL only comes in wood you are starting to split straws. If you mean a 700 with a floorplate then several models fall into this catagory. The BDL, CDL, SPS, XCR and others. If you restrict the conversation to strictly 700 BDL then yes they are all wood. :gun2: Edited November 13, 2009 by hunterbobb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I have a 700adl in 30-06 and it shoots great, Light to carry, easy to sholder, accurate. I have "not" shotten a deer with it BECAUSE I'm usually in a shotgun only zone most of the time, but I have shot it out to 200 yards and feel very comfortable with it...ALSO mine was a combo kit and came with bushnell scope 3-9x40, Nothing special just a basic scope, I would guess I could hold an even better group with a better scope, BUT I do feal like I could easly kill a deer at 200 or 250 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I have a 700adl in 30-06 and it shoots great, Light to carry, easy to sholder, accurate. I have "not" shotten a deer with it BECAUSE I'm usually in a shotgun only zone most of the time, but I have shot it out to 200 yards and feel very comfortable with it...ALSO mine was a combo kit and came with bushnell scope 3-9x40, Nothing special just a basic scope, I would guess I could hold an even better group with a better scope, BUT I do feal like I could easly kill a deer at 200 or 250 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 The term minor inletting is relative. Plus with this particular kit they are referring to a stock that is already cut for a floorplate. For an ADL it is minor compared to repairing the space shuttle. I assure you though, the job is way beyond the skills of the average joe. Plus by saying the BDL only comes in wood you are starting to split straws. If you mean a 700 with a floorplate then several models fall into this catagory. The BDL, CDL, SPS, XCR and others. If you restrict the conversation to strictly 700 BDL then yes they are all wood. :gun2: Not sure what the argument is here. If someone was interested and wanted a floorplate in an adl another option would be the adl to bdl conversion kit from brownells, which requires no work to the stock , but their kit would require a bdl stock. "Minor inletting" was the term used in the cabelas catalog, does not look that complicated to me. Could be wrong, but think bdl's from the remington factory all used to come with wood stocks with black fore end caps. Point I was trying to make was that the gun(an adl) out of the box will likely perform the same as a bdl out of the box for the most part, the actions are the same. Seems Dave(the original poster here) was concerned about the differences between an adl and bdl, and well in performance it is pretty likely he would not see any difference between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 thanks william for your info!!A floorplate i am not all that concerned about!!When i get out of the truck to walk into wherever i may be hunting that day i always load up anyways so loading up on the fly is no concern for me and also like i said i was buying a new toy to use not to set in the safe and MAYBE shoot it once a yr so saving a couple hundred bucks and have to jack the shells out is o.k. especially in todays econamy!(actually it was a combo deal so with the scope it saved me about 450)the scopes not bad it isn't nikon or leupold but i personally think it is as crisp as leupold(i'm not a fan of leupold scopes) as to it's ruggedness i don't know!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterbobb Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) Not sure what the argument is here. If someone was interested and wanted a floorplate in an adl another option would be the adl to bdl conversion kit from brownells, which requires no work to the stock , but their kit would require a bdl stock. "Minor inletting" was the term used in the cabelas catalog, does not look that complicated to me. Could be wrong, but think bdl's from the remington factory all used to come with wood stocks with black fore end caps. The arguement is you are giving advice on something you obviously know nothing about. Did you watch the video you linked too. The gun smith in the video starts out by saying first buy a BDL aftermarket stock. These prices start at about $200.00 for a good one. Now add the cost of the converstion kit $70.00 by your estimation. You have now increased the cost of the gun by at least $270.00. The whole point is if you want a floor plate, piecing it together after you have already bought an ADL will either require a lot of skilled labor or a significant out lay of cash. I do agree that both the ADL and BDL preform nearly identically. They are both quality rifles and anyone would do well purchasing either one. Finally here is a photo of a box for a 700 BDL stainless steel synthetic stock, so please stop saying they all come with wood. In the future you might want to stick to advise about bow hunting and leave the rifle advice to people who know what they are talking about. Finally, so you don't think I am not talking from experience this is a list of Remington 700's I currently own. 3 BDL's Wood stock 2 ADL' Wood stock 1 BDL Stainless steel synthetic stock 2 Limited edition classics 1 CDL Edited November 13, 2009 by hunterbobb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Sorry Dave, my initial reply here was in part to Don(Strut10) about not having a floorplate on the adl he had and was simply trying to share some information, the last thing I was trying to do here was hijack your thread or encourage you to buy an adl to convert it to a bdl. Don't think I said or implied that in any way here. Actually would agree with Bob that if a floor plate was the deciding factor on a new gun purchase that I would probably upgrade to the bdl or even a cdl, but from what you said that was not a determining factor. I personally would not hesitate to buy another model 700 adl, have given a lot of consideration to a laminated stock adl at wal mart, but think I am just going to hold out until I can get a cdl sf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterbobb Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I would like to apologize to wtnhunt about any names I may have called him. I do not agree with what he is saying but I had no cause to resort to name calling. :gun2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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