dance.and.shoot Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Sorry ya'll...but I just need to vent... as a couple of you know, I was drugged last Wednesday night with some sort of date rape drug. I went to the hospital the next day to get a tox test. They said since it was over 12 hours, blood would be the best way to go if I wanted something solid to take to the police since I was going to press charges. You've got to understand...i hate needles....with a HUGE passion. they don't like me and I don't like them!!! I explained to them that i'm allergic to needles (they didn't take that seriously) and that I was warning them I might pass out. their reply was "oh don't worry, it's not that bad." {yeah right} I sit down in the chair and they get my arm ready. She sticks the needle in me and that's the last thing I remember until I woke up in the other chair over 1/2 an hour later. the first thing the dr said was "oh, i guess you do pass out, don't you?" Uh...no kidding Doc!!! the lab called me back today...they messed up on the testing so now I don't have any proof that I was drugged. yeah, date rape drugs can stay in the system for as long as 5 days (or so I was told) but since i didn't finish the entire candy, it's VERY unlikly that it'll still be in my system and I'm not going to go and get blood drawn again and go through that whole ordeal a 2nd time while knowing that there's only like a 13% chance of the drugs still being in my system. I just want to crawl under the counter in my office and cry. Getting that blood drawn was the worst experience of my life...and now i've either got to repeat it, or just drop it and never press charges... so yeah....to say i'm ticked is a total understatement!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I'm confused how they can mess up on testing and not have more blood to simply redo the test. A nurse takes more than enough blood needed for any test. I'm also confused on how you think you were given a date rape drug? You have some really bad luck and tons of drama in your life for sure.....reminds me of alot of the 18-19 year old girls around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyohunter Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 i'd get blood drawn again, just dont watch...focus on something else, then all it is, is a prick o the skin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 well kat i agree there seems to be alot of drama there!! I would have to also agree with wyohunter if you could stand it i would take the test over and put that drug dealing drug giving creep away!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csimon Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 i would get the blood drawn again. focus on something else when they stick you and it wont be as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 :stupid: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 First of all whatever nurse or lab tech did the blood draw was stupid and inconsiderate! They shouldn't have said that crap but instead layed you down...wonder where they went to nursing school, "Compassion's Not Us" University? My suggestion would be get the blood drawn again, don't look, close your eyes, think about something else, and be firm with whoever is drawing the blood, say "hey this is my 2nd time through this, I really hate needles, I pass out...etc.." I can't believe they messed it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I would think that getting "drugged" would be a worse experience than getting blood drawn, but thats just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coles Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 NEVER TAKE CANDY FROM A STRANGER! Sorry i just had to say it! I hope everything turns out for you. I know a girl very close to me that is goin has gone through and is still goin through that kind of a situation. Hers was taken way further though. It just kills me and people like that should be given the death penalty as far as im concerned...JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Not sure if you can get them in the states or not but my 5 year old needed blood work last month and our doctor told us about a over the counter patch you can by that numbs the arm where you are going to get a needle.....It takes about an hour to work....and I know it does because when they took lauren's blood she never felt a thing.....you may want to look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Sorry to hear about the situation. I agree with what Muff said, when I was younger I have had the DRs numb my head with some type of wipe to be able to get fishing hooks out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I'm sorry, but I still call BS here. First your out for 30 minute and still wake up in the doctors office? I have passed out during a blood draw and was out a few seconds. I may be wrong and sorry if I am, but I'd think once ya was out passed a few minutes they'd be hauling your butt to the ER. Still can't figure out how the can mess up on a test and not be able to redo the test with remaining blood from the vial. I talked to my buddy whose a flabotimist ( and yes I know thats spelled totally wrong ) and he said drug test take a single drop! He also said that drug tests are strip tests, not microtests and that messing them up is near impossible. Also said if any kind of drug was injested that was any kind of date rape that it would be detected in a blood test. He doesn't know where you get your 13% figure. I'm sorry dance and shoot, but you have so much drama that continues and continues to pile up and its all so extravagent. Your only 19 so I take that into account here....but either your full of crap, or you seriously need a lifestyle change. Just my two cents here....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 sorry, but i think dance got the shaft. i also hate needles and literally went from 1970 to 2003 withiout a needle in my arm. i've had plenty, but i've never enjoyed a needle. that said, i'm still with dance and most likely would not give them a chance to screw up again. yep, call me a wimp but i just won't do it. i'll just move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 they did the wrong test on my blood. they were supposed to test for date rape drugs NOT illegal drugs...they messed up and want to draw more blood to do another test. but date rape drugs only last 1-5 days in the system...this happened wednesday night so today's the 5th day. it's VERY unlikly that it's still in my system... Date rape and illegal drugs are the same thing and ITS THE SAME TEST. THC, GHB, MDMA is all gonna show up.Also did a bit of research on date rape drugs and the way they are detected in tests. Urinary analysis is the prefered testing method over blood test because the drug leaves the blood system in less than 8 hours versus urine where it lasts up to 72 hours. I'm also a bit suprised that the hospital wasn't required by law to notify the police of a suspected attempt of date rape. In Oklahoma any reports of abuse be it physical or drug at a hospital requires the staff to contact local law enforcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I'm sorry, but I still call BS here. First your out for 30 minute and still wake up in the doctors office? I have passed out during a blood draw and was out a few seconds. I may be wrong and sorry if I am, but I'd think once ya was out passed a few minutes they'd be hauling your butt to the ER. Still can't figure out how the can mess up on a test and not be able to redo the test with remaining blood from the vial. I talked to my buddy whose a flabotimist ( and yes I know thats spelled totally wrong ) and he said drug test take a single drop! He also said that drug tests are strip tests, not microtests and that messing them up is near impossible. Also said if any kind of drug was injested that was any kind of date rape that it would be detected in a blood test. He doesn't know where you get your 13% figure. I'm sorry dance and shoot, but you have so much drama that continues and continues to pile up and its all so extravagent. Your only 19 so I take that into account here....but either your full of crap, or you seriously need a lifestyle change. Just my two cents here....... Easy there bud...I have talked to Breanna alot and this is not BS. And no they dont haul your butt to the ER when you pass out giving blood. They used to have blood drives at school for the Red Cross and students passed out quite frequently. They lay you down and wait until you wake up in a few minutes. Nothing unusual about it. I think maybe you oughta back off on what your saying because you dont know whats going on. Ever heard of atleast giving people the benefit of the doubt? Pretty inconsiderate if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ryan1990 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Well im not tryin to be rude but to be honest I think Kat is makin some pretty good points and Im kinda agreeing with him. It just doesnt add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Easy there bud...I have talked to Breanna alot and this is not BS. And no they dont haul your butt to the ER when you pass out giving blood. They used to have blood drives at school for the Red Cross and students passed out quite frequently. They lay you down and wait until you wake up in a few minutes. Nothing unusual about it. I think maybe you oughta back off on what your saying because you dont know whats going on. Ever heard of atleast giving people the benefit of the doubt? Pretty inconsiderate if you ask me. Learn to comprehend what you read pal...... I said if your out for 30 minutes your gonna wake up at an ER. If you had read what I wrote, then you'd have seen where I acknowledged people pass out giving blood as I HAVE MYSELF! But your only out a minute or so.....far from a half hour. I assure you if someone is out for more than a few minutes the doctor would be more than a little worried. I also know you and her talk alot and your buddies. That doesn't mean shes telling you the truth just cause you talk to her..... I happen to be a little more educated on drugs and testing methods than your average bear. Her story doesn't add up. Alot of her stories don't add up and I for one am sick of reading something new every other day. Enoughs enough. Every once in awhile these forums attract the attention of an attention starved individual who likes to show out in here with all kinds of outlandish stories one right after the other. It's just awful funny about all the stories that have popped up in just the short time here....Drama drama drama....Realtree is no place for it.:hammer2:. Sincerely, Kyle, your friendly and loveable Realtree Kat :clown: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlife242 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Okay Enough!! you guys are not being very fair here. i thought we were a family on here and the last time i checked families don't treat each other like a piece of CRAP!!! I am sorry but Kat you don't know what you are talking about. I am a CNA and people make mistakes all the time when they do blood test we are only human. and yes it is true that you don't need a lot of blood for drug test but at the same time if you think you did the right test you don't keep the blood. you throw it out. Let me also say that if this had been your daughter or sisters or whoever that came to you thinking that they had been drugged you sure as heck would do everything you could to help them. Not make them feel like CRAP!!! plus you don't know whether or not she was drugged and to say that she is lying and saying she is acting like and 18-19 year old is so stupid. GROW UP! How would you feel if you found out that she was really drugged and than killed. maybe this was just a test to see if they could do it maybe not. but the fact is none of use but dance was there so as a member of this family we should try to help her any way that we can. so if your not going to help by giving good advise than don't say anything. Dance may have drama in her life right now but you giving her Crap is not going to help her out.If you want to help than maybe you should just pray for her instead of bushing her down and calling her a lier. we are a family or so i thought. but if this is how you all treat family than i want nothing to do with you. I just can't believe you guys she got on here for support and instead got treated like dirt. Well done! i know i am being harsh but none of you had to see her face and hold her while she sob into your arms. She reach out for help and you slapped her away. REAL NICE EVERYONE WAY TO GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Lab techs should be able to draw your blood with a very small needle, also they should have had enough blood for any testing even if they screwed something up. Too bad you were drugged, some really sick low lifes out there, cannot be too careful. If you know who it was, might find another way to press charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 No one likes to be lied to, but for now I'll assume dance is being truthful with us. Date rape drugs can be a variety of things from alcohol and over the counter antihistamines (Benadryl) to anesthetics used in surgery. Of course the greatest sedation comes from the anesthetics. Some of the drugs stay in the body for up to 72 hours and others for less than 10. Blood and urine tests can be used to detect. Some sources I read indicated some drugs are detectable for a longer time in the urine (great news for someone that does not like to be stuck). As far as the lab testing goes (I've stuck thousands of people and never seen anyone pass out for more than a few seconds). Still what may only be a short time may seem like a lot longer to the person passing out? If indeed a person passes out I could see where taking care of the person would take precedence over drawing blood and the sample may have been collected in a way that caused it to hemolyze. The lab could have also be to blame for a faulty result. Ruth, most lab techs are not nurses and in my experience are often not as compassionate. Dance, you need to remember that the forum members here have been lied to more than once which makes a lot of us skeptical. Anyway, I'm really sorry to hear about your situation Dance and I hope everything works out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 No one likes to be lied to, but for now I'll assume dance is being truthful with us. Date rape drugs can be a variety of things from alcohol and over the counter antihistamines (Benadryl) to anesthetics used in surgery. Of course the greatest sedation comes from the anesthetics. Some of the drugs stay in the body for up to 72 hours and others for less than 10. Blood and urine tests can be used to detect. Some sources I read indicated some drugs are detectable for a longer time in the urine (great news for someone that does not like to be stuck). As far as the lab testing goes (I've stuck thousands of people and never seen anyone pass out for more than a few seconds). Still what may only be a short time may seem like a lot longer to the person passing out? If indeed a person passes out I could see where taking care of the person would take precedence over drawing blood and the sample may have been collected in a way that caused it to hemolyze. The lab could have also be to blame for a faulty result. Ruth, most lab techs are not nurses and in my experience are often not as compassionate. Dance, you need to remember that the forum members here have been lied to more than once which makes a lot of us skeptical. Anyway, I'm really sorry to hear about your situation Dance and I hope everything works out for you. Ahhh, the calming voice of Fly. That's a nice post fly. Let's get back on track here folks. This thread is close to being locked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I was just going to say I think it's time to be locked...Realtree doesn't need to start looking like a few other forums.... Nice post Fly...yeah, I know most are lab techs who have done blood draws but I did see a nurse here and there during clinical do some blood draws, but not that often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Wow your a cna? Then why do u work at cabelas? It's ironic how u and dance have all these careers.....go find another forum. Try daysofourlives.com perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I was just going to say I think it's time to be locked...Realtree doesn't need to start looking like a few other forums.... Nice post Fly...yeah, I know most are lab techs who have done blood draws but I did see a nurse here and there during clinical do some blood draws, but not that often. Yep I agree. Lock it up. Especially after Kat's last remark. This is going to far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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