bbarnhart20 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 for a gun that's really old to just stop holing groups for you? I've shot the same marlin 30-30 since i was like 10 and now i'm 24... it's shot great for me every year (with the same bullet and same grain) and i've killed many deer with it, but for some reason I can't hold a group whatsoever this year. Could it be due to the age of the gun(it's been handed down 3 generations) or just human error?? I'm goin crazy over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Im pretty sure a barrel is only good for so many rounds before it wears out. I dont know how many rounds you have put through that barrel on your gun but if its up into the several thousands of rounds then that could be the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Sounds like it may be something simple like copper fouling. Unless it's received some kind of damage it should still shoot good groups. My father has a 30-06 that is over 40years old and it still holds great groups and kills deer at over 250yds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coles Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I would suspect copper fouling too if it has just all of the sudden started this year. If i were you, i would clean it really well and go out and see if that helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 My 30-30 was bought in 1951 by my grandpa. It holds a 1" group at 100 yards. When I got it the gun was completely rust covered and pitted. I completely disassembled it, soaked it in WD40 for about 3 days and took extra fine steel wool to it. After that I re-blued it myself. The gun was in really bad shape when I got it and it still shoots great. Clean the gun. I bet it will fix the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUTSIDER Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 If you have a scope on it, check the mounts and bases for loose screws. I wonder if something funky with the scope. do wht these guys suggest, give her a good scrub and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 GWSmith said: Sounds like it may be something simple like copper fouling. Unless it's received some kind of damage it should still shoot good groups. My father has a 30-06 that is over 40years old and it still holds great groups and kills deer at over 250yds! I'm with Gary. If it hasn't been cleaned properly in a long time, you'll need to get the copper out and will make a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbarnhart20 Posted November 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I cleaned it like it was my job last night, and changed the scope on it. Till now it's only had a 4X scope which doesn't make 100 yrds a whole lot easier especially if it's a small target. It hasn't been overly shot at all (usually just a few shots every year to make sure its sighted in and then whatever is shot at game) I think the new 2.5-7X scope i put on it will do the trick. The scope might have actually been the problem since it's old and isn't a really great scope. Thanks for the feedback ... appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerkiller11 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 you may have shot the barrlel out or is your scope old or new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 deerkiller11 said: you may have shot the barrlel out The barrel's not "shot out". It would take a gazillion rounds to erode the throat on a 30-30. Chances are the bore is fouled and/or pitted from neglect. Or you could have scope/mount/base issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I agree with strut, its not like he is shooting a 300 ultra or anything. I am right online with the rest of you all, copper fouling or bad scope/mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinman802 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 i dont think its the age of the gun. i shot a doe tonight with a 35 remington modle 141 pump thats 60 something years old and she still holds 1'' groups at 100 yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbarnhart20 Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I think it should be fine with the new scope, goin to shoot it friday morning, but if things don't pan out.. I'll be takin the 300 out next monday. Thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterbobb Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Strut10 said: The barrel's not "shot out". It would take a gazillion rounds to erode the throat on a 30-30. Chances are the bore is fouled and/or pitted from neglect. Or you could have scope/mount/base issues. That would be my guess too. I think you hit the nail on the head Strut. :gun2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Strut10 said: It would take a gazillion rounds...Exactly how many zero's is in a gazillion, PLEASE SHOW US!!! LMAO! That would have had to of cost several trillion dollars!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubledrop Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 sounds like a scope issue to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Just remember, there's clean and then there's CLEAN. If your bore is fouled, you're not going to get it clean by running a couple of Hoppes soaked patches through it. Get some good bore cleaning instructions off of the internet and follow them. Be prepared to invest some time and sweat into the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csualumni21000 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Tighten all bolts. Stock could be loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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