hoosierhunter Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Well for years I shot 150 grains of hodgen pellets. Two years ago I went to 150 grains of triple 7. I got a Tradtions Pursuit XLT and it says not to use over 100 grains per charge. Also I've read that the triple 7 burns 20% hotter than normal powder. My question is how many muzzleloaders say to shoot 150 grains of powder as compared to 100. Also can ANY muzzleloader burn all 150 grains of powder as I've heard that around 120 grains of the max burn for most guns? Thanks for your help...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bowhunter56 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Follow mfg. recommendations, playing around with powder can kill.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 This year I went to 100 grains, but technically if it burns 20% hotter then it's like I'm burning 120 right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I know my Encore patterns better with 100 grains vs. 150. I guess I'd find the amount of powder that patterns the best without going over the manufacturer's recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I know my Encore patterns better with 100 grains vs. 150. I guess I'd find the amount of powder that patterns the best without going over the manufacturer's recommendations. Each gun is different for sure. My Encore likes 150gr of 777 with the same bullet Chris is using (250gr Shockwave). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye54 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I have the Traditions Pursuit XLT and mine shoots best with 100 grs 777loose powder. I also shoot a 240 gr Dead Center. I probably put 200 rounds through it this past summer and tried pellets. about 8 different bullets and all sorts of different loads. I tried 3 50 gr 777 pellets with several bullets. Besides killing my shoulder, I didn't get the groups I get with 100. That is MY gun. Yours may be different, but you have to try a lot of loads. I personally don't think 150 grs is necessary, but some guns shoot it well. Also, I had the same questions when I bought my gun, so I weighed 150 grs of 777 measured by volume and it came out to roughly 130 grs by weight. Also 3 pellets weight in at around 135 grs by weight. I was always under the impression that you should use 15% less 777 than pyrodex or BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quigleysharps4570 Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Also can ANY muzzleloader burn all 150 grains of powder No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 This year I went to 100 grains, but technically if it burns 20% hotter then it's like I'm burning 120 right? no i dont think so you still only have 100 grains, i was told it burns faster b/c there are holes in the pellets so it burns faster than regular loose powder which can only burn at one end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 From what I have read the 777 loose powder is around 15% stronger than any other bp substitute. The 777 pellets are the same strength as other pellets so that a person can safely use 3 pellets in those rifles that say you can use 150 gr of powder in them. If I were shooting 777 loose I would not go over 120 grains. Besides, shooting 150 grains of powder out of most rifles the powder is still burning when the bullet exits the barrel. Also I just saw the American Hunter show on the Outdoor Channel last night where they compared chronographed loads at 100 gr and 150 gr. There was a difference in speed between the two but what really impressed me was the recoil for 100 gr was around 18 or 19 ft pounds where the 150 gr was over 31 ft pounds. 18 ft pounds is very close to a 30-06 and who knows what 31 ft pounds relates to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzy1 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 you dont need 150 gr, 100 is plenty and there is almost no recoil.....I shoot 100rg loose 777 powder in my encore and its a tac driver .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 thanks for all the info here guys. I've stuck with the 100 grains as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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