wtnhunt Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Looking at the neck just in front of the shoulder, looks like a red area and blood. That spot is not in the previous or following frame so it is not the camera. No other pics of this deer after this one. Our muzzleloader season is still in, this pic was taken Monday morning early. The wife did shoot at an 8 pointer, possibly this one, Sunday morning at 170 yards with the ml and this would have been the same side as her entry side. She held just below the top of the shoulder and said the shot felt good. The drop should have been just right at 6.5-7 inches to be in the vitals, but possible she pulled slightly one way or the other, the deer was working a scrape when she shot. She has never missed a deer with that ml'er. We found no sign of a hit, but now looking at this maybe she did hit him? Possible at that distance no exit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskSniper Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 definitely looks like it could be an entry hole to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SourthenILdeerhunter Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 looks like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 definitely looks like it could be an entry hole to me Ditto. Certainly looks like it could be. Hope you guys put him down for the count. Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niet32 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Could also be from fighting and taking a tine to the shoulder...possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I think its possible....but there doesnt appear to be any blood on the area around the wound. Could also be a cut from a fence or another buck...It looks like hes getting around ok with whatever it is. Hope you get it figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugermk2 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hey, I did a little messin around with the photo, and it looks to me like there is a hit about 3 maybe 4 inches in front of, and about an inch above the top of his left leg. Looks like the entrance of a bullet wound to me. Maybe a tine wound in a fight, but I seriously doubt that. I'm quite suprised he didn't go down, or you haven't found him by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Looks like the entrance of a bullet wound to me. Maybe a tine wound in a fight, but I seriously doubt that. I'm quite suprised he didn't go down, or you haven't found him by now. The more I have looked at it, the more I believe it is an entrance wound from a bullet. There was a few bigger bucks than this one around, but really don't think that is a tine gouge, usually the hair is more roughed up when a buck gets beat up. This pic would have been about 14-15 hours after the wife shot. If indeed it is an entrance wound, what are the chances it would have hit the carotid? Had she hit the carotid the deer would not still be alive 14 hours later, would it? Looks to me like a good chance it went between the spine and carotid. No vital organs as the deer was broadside and it did not pass through, explaining why we found no blood. Guessing this deer is still alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Looks like it and some swelling too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Could also be from fighting and taking a tine to the shoulder...possible? Thats what I think too..it also looks swelled up so it is about a week old "imo" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter83 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I think it is a wound, I just don't know that it is from a bullet. It could be from a barbwire fence, or even someone could have shot a poor quartering to shot with a bow that doesn't shoot a lot of poundage. Even at 170 yds with a ML, if that is her shot, it should have put him down. I'm not trying to be rude or anything but unless I'm shooting over 100 grain of powder, I don't know that 170 yds is a great shot choice. I think he's fine. If it was lethal, I don't think he would have lived 14-15 hours after the shot. But I guess stranger things have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 I think it is a wound, I just don't know that it is from a bullet. It could be from a barbwire fence, or even someone could have shot a poor quartering to shot with a bow that doesn't shoot a lot of poundage. Even at 170 yds with a ML, if that is her shot, it should have put him down. I'm not trying to be rude or anything but unless I'm shooting over 100 grain of powder, I don't know that 170 yds is a great shot choice. I think he's fine. If it was lethal, I don't think he would have lived 14-15 hours after the shot. But I guess stranger things have happened. I was not asking about whether or not the shot taken was a poor shot choice given the distance or that it was a ml'er. Everyone has opinions, some folks shoot ml'ers on deer well beyond that range and effectively kill them time and time again, and then some folks shoot rifles at deer at much closer ranges and wound them time and time again. We don't make a habit of taking poor shots or losing deer. My wife had never missed and has never lost a deer prior to this, that says something. Matter of fact prior to this she has never had a deer make it more than 20 yards, that is kills with a .243 and this same ml'er. I have killed deer with this same ml'er at around 150 yards shooting the same load and had good results, the ml'er is very capable of making an effective 200 yard kill shot. My wife is a pretty darned good shot and she shoots this gun quite well. Using 120 grains of powder and a 240 grain sabot, but yes it does lose velocity at those ranges and might explain the bullet not passing through. Now that she has had a chance to look at the picture, we are certain it is the same deer she shot at, no question about that. Our rifle season opens this weekend, maybe she will get another chance on the deer and we will be able to get a better look at the wound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) There's definitely some kind of wound there William. Whether it's from the ml'er, I'm not real sure due to the clarity of the pic but if Catrina is certain it's the same deer then that settles it. Hopefully she will be able to get another chance during y'alls rifle season. Good luck to you and her. Edited November 20, 2009 by Dawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNcrittergittr Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Definitely a wound there, and it does look like a shot, but maaaan....it's hard for me to see a deer taking a shot there with a muzzloader and not goin down. Whatever the wound is from, the deer appears to be doing fine. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter83 Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 I was not asking about whether or not the shot taken was a poor shot choice given the distance or that it was a ml'er. Everyone has opinions, some folks shoot ml'ers on deer well beyond that range and effectively kill them time and time again, and then some folks shoot rifles at deer at much closer ranges and wound them time and time again. We don't make a habit of taking poor shots or losing deer. My wife had never missed and has never lost a deer prior to this, that says something. Matter of fact prior to this she has never had a deer make it more than 20 yards, that is kills with a .243 and this same ml'er. I have killed deer with this same ml'er at around 150 yards shooting the same load and had good results, the ml'er is very capable of making an effective 200 yard kill shot. My wife is a pretty darned good shot and she shoots this gun quite well. Using 120 grains of powder and a 240 grain sabot, but yes it does lose velocity at those ranges and might explain the bullet not passing through. Now that she has had a chance to look at the picture, we are certain it is the same deer she shot at, no question about that. Our rifle season opens this weekend, maybe she will get another chance on the deer and we will be able to get a better look at the wound. Sorry I didn't mean to sound degrading on that. Just my personal opinion and observation. I do hope that you get another chance at this deer and if you do get to harvest him, definitely keep us posted on if that was for sure a wound or not. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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