Looking into getting a new rifle


Tom2008

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I've only owned a Marlin 30-30 and a couple of .22 from Remington, but I've never actually went out and looked at any bolt action rifles or anything like that. I've hunted Montana for two years and brought my 30-30 along, but I'd like to have something else a little more suitable for the area. I haven't been out there for 2 years now, but Uncle and Grandpa might be planning on another trip for next fall. I was checking out the Remington Model 700 or possibly a Winchester Model 70. I was wondering what other people's thoughts are on these firearms. Any helpful advice would be greatly appreciated or other suggestions.

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the model 70 black shadow in an exelent gun in 7mm mag. it kicks like a mule, so i put a reciol pad on it but it shoots great. howa 1500 is also a great gun, i have one in .243 and love it. either 700 or 70 are nice guns

Looking at a the Model 70 Black Shadow in a .243. Will have to check out the TC that Mark is talking about though. The price sounds right with that gun.

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In my opinion the Remington 700 is the finest rifle made. It is the rifle that has been in continous production longer than any. The reason for that is that they got it right the first time around. I would suggest you look into buying a Model 700 in 270 Win. If you are planning on huntiing anything bigger than antelope. The 243 might be a little on the weak side for larger game.

The Model 70 while a good gun has been redesigned over and over again. They get it right and then they change something in order to save a few dollars in the production process. The black shadow model was one of the last model 70's to come out of the original production facilities. To put it delicatly the quality control at winchester by that time left something to be desired.

Now I know everyone is going to say they have a black shadow and it is a wonderful gun. This is probably true, and Chevy made woderful cars. But a Porsche is a wonderful car too.

If you want a Chevy buy a Winchester 70.

If you want a Porsche, buy a Remington 700

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In my opinion the Remington 700 is the finest rifle made. It is the rifle that has been in continous production longer than any. The reason for that is that they got it right the first time around. I would suggest you look into buying a Model 700 in 270 Win. If you are planning on huntiing anything bigger than antelope. The 243 might be a little on the weak side for larger game.

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Thank you for the input. I'm going to stick with a .243 though. It is plenty to take down Mule Deer/Whitetail. I've seen what it can do and I haven't noticed any problems with the success of this caliber. The Model 700 is something I've been looking at for a few years now. Just wanted to know a little more about what is out there. I'm a bowhunter at heart and don't hunt with guns that much anymore if at all. The only reason I'd be getting another one would be to hunt out in Montana with my Grandpa and Uncle. Grandpa uses a .243 and I've seen the way the deer drop after the shot or barely make it 20 yards. I have some friends that use .243 on big Minnesota Whitetails every year and success is at 100%.

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.243 is a great round. I carried one into the woods this past weekend. I did however go back to the .30-06. Ive never been let down by my .243 but the extra punch makes me feel a hair better about the shot.

I too LOVE the Remington 700 line (Avoid the 710 and 770's). Ive owned a few, both chambered in .30-06 oddly enough. They are great shooting rifles and deadly accurate.

Savage is another great gun (as mentioned above). They are nicely priced and deadly accurate too.

Tika, good accurate guns at a fair price.

Ruger, I have a couple (including on in .243). Very accurate. The only shortfall with them is the cost of the rings. The rings are staggering! Of course, once you buy a set youre done. They are great shooters.

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I can attest to the quality of the Model 700. My deer rifle of choice is my late great uncle's .308 which him and my grandfather purchased matching rifles back before I was even born (I'm 32). My rifle has taken down countless animals including my 10 pointer this past opening day and shoots just as good as the day it was purchased.

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Yeah Remington Model 700 looks like what I want to go for. Looking at an SPS Stainless at the moment or just a regular SPS. All other models are out of my price range. Shouldered a Tikka T3 tonight and thought it was alright. Shouldered nice and was nice and light. Has really cheap plastic clip though.

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I currently own a Remington 700, a Savage 116, and a Ruger M77. All three shoot very well and I've never had a malfunction of any type from any of them. For looks, it's the Ruger, hands down. Beautiful wood and I've always been a fan of their styling. For long range work and extreme accuracy, it's the Savage. For ruggedness I'd go with the Remington.

For calibers, 243 is good but why not step up to a 308? It's much more versatile and if you decide to shoot a lot, good cheap ammo is readily available.

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I currently own a Remington 700, a Savage 116, and a Ruger M77. All three shoot very well and I've never had a malfunction of any type from any of them. For looks, it's the Ruger, hands down. Beautiful wood and I've always been a fan of their styling. For long range work and extreme accuracy, it's the Savage. For ruggedness I'd go with the Remington.

For calibers, 243 is good but why not step up to a 308? It's much more versatile and if you decide to shoot a lot, good cheap ammo is readily available.

Girlfriend may use this gun also so .243 would be the best for both of us. Thanks for all the input though. :)

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Girlfriend may use this gun also so .243 would be the best for both of us. Thanks for all the input though. :)

Just a thought Tom, but a .270 really is not bad if you are thinking about recoil. My oldest daughter(13) shoots my .270 model 700, it has less recoil than the 20 gauge 870 with turkey loads. My daughter is kind of small.

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Just a thought Tom, but a .270 really is not bad if you are thinking about recoil. My oldest daughter(13) shoots my .270 model 700, it has less recoil than the 20 gauge 870 with turkey loads. My daughter is kind of small.

Really? I think you just changed my mind in a caliber then William. ;) Thanks for the info. What grain and kind of bullet is she using?

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my girlfriend had never shot any rifle larger than a 22lr. She wanted to shoot my 270 since she was goin to start hunting with me this year. After the first shot i saw her crack a smile and after that she wanted mine! So i got an awesome deal on a Ruger Hawkeye all weather 270 and the rest is history. She is a dead eye with the sucker. Killed her first buck this year with perfectly placed shot. She never developed a flinch and loves to shoot it. I honestly think she would make me go broke buying her ammo if she could go out and shoot every day! She shoots 130 gr Federal Fusions out of hers and i shoot the same out of mine and have had awesome luck with them. I say get a 270, possibly get some reduced recoil loads just to start her off and ya'll will never look back! 270 is the way to go for deer! Good luck!

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my girlfriend had never shot any rifle larger than a 22lr. She wanted to shoot my 270 since she was goin to start hunting with me this year. After the first shot i saw her crack a smile and after that she wanted mine! So i got an awesome deal on a Ruger Hawkeye all weather 270 and the rest is history. She is a dead eye with the sucker. Killed her first buck this year with perfectly placed shot. She never developed a flinch and loves to shoot it. I honestly think she would make me go broke buying her ammo if she could go out and shoot every day! She shoots 130 gr Federal Fusions out of hers and i shoot the same out of mine and have had awesome luck with them. I say get a 270, possibly get some reduced recoil loads just to start her off and ya'll will never look back! 270 is the way to go for deer! Good luck!

Thanks for the much needed info Coles.

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