Guest newhunter92 Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 I have have a springer spaniel and she hunts grouse. I am not sure if she will be able to go huntingthis year.she is 12 and she is almost deaf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. [ QUOTE ] I have have a springer spaniel and she hunts grouse. I am not sure if she will be able to go huntingthis year.she is 12 and she is almost deaf. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry to hear that, my first dog was a springer, could run a rooster to death. Depends on what yourr after. and what you want IE. flushing/pointing, close working or more range. I hunt behind a english setter, she like to get out and run, but in a pointer i dont see that as being a bad thing, especially since they seem to have the stamina, and you want to talk about a stylish point. Nothing better than watching that feathering straight up in the air. The german shorthair pointer is another awsome hunting machine. If you like flushing id say ya cant go wrong with a lab or another springer, i have a lab now, and its hard to beat there retrieving atributes, just make shure you go with one that has a proven field blood, and certified hips, labs are so over breed anymore. Grouse and springers go together like milk and cookies, hard to find a dog more fit for the task. They work close, have a great noise, and are as good in the house as in the field. there are a ton of other cool breeds though, german versitiles, gordon setters are beautiful dogs, english pointers are hunting machines almost to the point insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. ditto with Aaron, and might i add the Brittany? i had a brit a few years back and she was just as comfortable in the field as she was in the house. a great dog, and they're about the size of a springer. not as durable as the bigger breeds, but they're good setters for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. [ QUOTE ] ditto with Aaron, and might i add the Brittany? i had a brit a few years back and she was just as comfortable in the field as she was in the house. a great dog, and they're about the size of a springer. not as durable as the bigger breeds, but they're good setters for sure. [/ QUOTE ] Ah thank you chris forgot tthe brit, i dont have much experiance with them, but i have hunted behind my buddies once on a preserve, pretty good little setter (kinda funny point though ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] ditto with Aaron, and might i add the Brittany? i had a brit a few years back and she was just as comfortable in the field as she was in the house. a great dog, and they're about the size of a springer. not as durable as the bigger breeds, but they're good setters for sure. [/ QUOTE ] Ah thank you chris forgot tthe brit, i dont have much experiance with them, but i have hunted behind my buddies once on a preserve, pretty good little setter (kinda funny point though ) [/ QUOTE ] yep, funny point, but it's the only spaniel that points, naturally. LMAO but we won't get into "naturally pointing dogs", will we. BTW--we need to hook up and bowhunt soon son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] ditto with Aaron, and might i add the Brittany? i had a brit a few years back and she was just as comfortable in the field as she was in the house. a great dog, and they're about the size of a springer. not as durable as the bigger breeds, but they're good setters for sure. [/ QUOTE ] Ah thank you chris forgot tthe brit, i dont have much experiance with them, but i have hunted behind my buddies once on a preserve, pretty good little setter (kinda funny point though ) [/ QUOTE ] yep, funny point, but it's the only spaniel that points, naturally. LMAO............. [/ QUOTE ] I loves them Britts, too..........so I does. I'm not sure about the "funny point" thing, though. I would classify the point of a good Britt to be less "stylish" in the eyes of a purist than say that of a high-tailed setter or a big English or shorthair. But I never had too many roosters tell me my Britt pointed funny. LOL!! I could look past a little "lack of flash" for the virtues of a pile of dead cockbirds. I remember many times when my little girl Britt (with very little pedigree) showed some awfully high-powered setters and pointers (including some of my own) how it was supposed to be done!! A cute story: At one point I was seeking AKC hunter test titles for my Britt. So I would run her at sanctioned tests to accumulate the necessary points. During one test she was running and quartering hard to her left. The wind, which had been from her left, quickly swirled and came from the right. At that moment (still running hard left) she winded a bird set to her right. She slammed into a point with her right paw crossed over her left paw and her head looking right. She was doing her darndest to stay locked and not fall over...........teetering back and forth. The judge and marshal nearly fell off their horses they were laughing so hard. I flushed the bird, the gunner shot it and she stayed upright until I gave the fetch command. If there's one thing I wished I had caught on video but did not........that was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. funny story Don reminds me of a similar story with my brit and the wind did the same thing except for the fact that Trixie slammed on the breaks so fast she did a sommersault, and i'll never forget the look on her face when she righted herself and pointed at the bird. she actually looked embarrassed at the fact of falling down, LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modillo Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. well my dog is a hound and she is doing great but she still has a lot to lear anbout fetching. but she is starting to go threw her first heat cycle. but i need to get her out and see how much she had progressed. but as far as i can tell she is doing great. she wants to point but i keep trying to show her but she is not catching on. i need to trian her a bit more. any sugestions on how to cure a hard mouthed pup? i would gladly accept it. i heard a medicineball (or a tenis ball with pins in it) would work thats what my gramps used to use on his. but i would rather try other options before hurting my dog. and how much good comes out of a shockcolor? modillo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob LeBlanc Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. Modillo, You can use a hard wire bristle hair comb, or even a real large pine cone. Both will help with a hard-mouthed dog. But a hound?!?...that's a tough one. buddy. In the hands of someone who knows how and WHEN to use 'em, a shock collar is a great tool. If you don't know the where-with-all about 'em...you can do more harm than good. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. [ QUOTE ] Modillo, You can use a hard wire bristle hair comb, or even a real large pine cone. Both will help with a hard-mouthed dog. But a hound?!?...that's a tough one. buddy. In the hands of someone who knows how and WHEN to use 'em, a shock collar is a great tool. If you don't know the where-with-all about 'em...you can do more harm than good. Bob [/ QUOTE ] I agree completely about the e-coller. I use them on all my dogs and have for a few years now, wouldnt be in the field without it. That said, Im real lucky that i had a good old friend when i first got the thing, because i def. misused it/ didn't understand when to use it. Didnt mess up that old boy but when i figured out what i had done i felt pretty bad. There great tools but make shure ya know how it should be used. Pine cones for hard mouth works pretty well, the sap def cures that isssue. good luck bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. [ QUOTE ] I agree completely about the e-coller. I use them on all my dogs....... [/ QUOTE ] Yep. Me, too. But one friendly hint. Try to find somebody that'll loan you one before you go & buy one. I shelled out considerable cash to buy one when my Britt needed broken from chasing deer. If I remember right........I had to shock her a total of 2 times. Problem sloved. On a "cost-per-shock" basis, it was a pretty expensive deal. Wish I coulda just borrowed (or rented) one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Re: recommendation on a upland small game dog. On grouse I have owned and hunted different breeds. I had an English Setter that was great, many labs (mostly for ducks) but hunted grouse great, and have hunted over spaniels also.I guess it would come down to if you wanted a pointing or flushing dog. The comments above are right on and good. I'm parcial to labs myself because they are so versatile. My opinion is do your homework and read about different dogs, find what you think will meet your needs, and make sure your new hunting partner comes from a qualified breeder. Good luck. too_pointer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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