DocMort Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Any ideas, I am thinking over 500 yards. Enough power to put a whitetail on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Lots of ideas........................ .264 Win Mag 6.5 STW .270 Wby 7mm STW 7mm RUM .300 Win Mag .300 Wby .300 RUM Anything there tickle yer fancy???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I like that what about the 340 weatherby or the 338 ultra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 DocMort said: I like that what about the 340 weatherby or the 338 ultra? Another pair of great long-range thumpers. Might be a little more on the backward end than most would call "fun-to-shoot" from some field situations.....especially prone. You'll be looking at around 50-ish pounds of free recoil. If you're planning to shoot elk or large bears, the .33's are a dandy choice. If whitetails are all you're after, you may want to reconsider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer79 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I had,sorry I got rid of it,7mm weatherby mag.I always had a problem gettin ammo in my area and with all the urban sprawl was gettin scared to shoot it,but it would slam deer even lung shots they would never run more than 30yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hey I am big fan of when I shoot something it is gutted and deboned and ready for the freezer by the time I get there. Meaning bigger heavier, harder hitting is just fine. I am looking not for just deer but also anything that walks the North American Continent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Then one of the bigger .33's that you mentioned should do you fine. I've always had a hankering for a .340 Roy. Just like the round. Forums and OTPG member Uncle John shoots a .338 RUM and it does him a very fine job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I have been comparing prices to shooting, I can reload if need be and I see if you want reload a roy your talking a little more money but the power is pay off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 30-378 Weatherby 338 Lapua 7.82 Warbird 7.21 Tomahawk I know, those last two are pretty exotic, but it's fun to dream. The Weatherby and the Lapua are both realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2labs Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 If your looking for a anything in North America gun you cant beat the 338 ultra mag with 250gr bullet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle john Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Since Strut had to go and bring up my name, I gotta throw in my 2 cents. For years, I used a .264 Win., and took a nice collection of antelope, mulies and whitetails with it. Very adequate out to my limits which are in the 500-600 yd category without a rangefinder. For animals of a larger size, you are better served with a larger bore. I picked up a 700 Rem in .338 ultra a few years back, and have been very satisfied, especially after I replaced the factory "rubber" stock with one from H S Precision. Accuracy is better, and felt recoil is less brutal. I have been using 225 AccuBonds at 3100 fps and they do quite well. It's a decent handfull for a skinny old man, but the performance outweighs the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Well I am 6'4 280 pounds so the recoil part of it I am not really worried about. I am more worried about the cost to shoot that cannon. I can or my dad can reload so thats not the thing its more of powder capacity and a rifle to handle that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle john Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 I've been handloading for mine since I got it. It doesn't seem too hard on brass, some I've refilled at least 10 times. They do require trimming every few loads. I full length resize each time, as hunting requires a round that will feed easily. All of this, though, depends on the chamber and die dimensions a good bit. It does cost a bit more than lesser calibers. I have been using Hodgdon's H-1000, and you only get about 70 rounds per pound with the 225 grain bullets. Nosler's better bullets aren't cheap either, but they fly straight in my rifle. One thing I've noticed about recoil. A smaller person like myself has less inertia to overcome, and the recoil from the shot will move the rifle AND me quite a bit more than it will on a heavier person. I go about 165 at 6 ft. A person with more upper body mass has more inertia to overcome, and the jolt seems to be more severe to them. Just keep a good grip on it, don't get your eye too close to the scope, and it's a lot of fun. You just have to remember that it's not a .223! I have thought about putting a brake on it, but 26" plus 2" more makes a pretty long stick to carry through the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 DocMort said: Well I am 6'4 280 pounds so the recoil part of it I am not really worried about. I am more worried about the cost to shoot that cannon. I can or my dad can reload so thats not the thing its more of powder capacity and a rifle to handle that. What calibers have you spent a good deal of quality time with, Doc?? I'm not in any way suggesting that .338 RUM-class cartridges aren't for you. But it's been my experience that physical body size has little to do with recoil tolerance beyond being inversely proportional in many cases, as Uncle John suggested. Many times, the bigger the boy the gun has to move, the more the bigger boy feels the move. You may love the shove. You may not. It'd be a real wise move on your part to find someone with a .338 RUM or something very similar that you could run a box or so through from the bench..........just to see if it's for you before you drop a lot of hard-earned cash on a rifle you end up hating. To truly own a .338 RUM or the like, you have to either reload or be independently wealthy. The big boomers toss expensive bullets and have a very healthy appetite for smokeless powder. But, like Uncle John said......... uncle john said: You just have to remember that it's not a .223! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I have extensiv time with the 338 win mag, 300 roy, 300 win. Never really gone bigger, I mean have put 4 or 5 boxes through a 375 H&H but wouldn't call it extensive. Shot at 500 Nitro express about 10 times. I liked it hit hard on both ends. On of the farms we used to to some work on the farmer would let us shoot skunks with that and the 375. What about the 375 Ruger then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I think my next fun gun will be a 7mm STW, I'd love to have one in a Remington 700 for a long range shooting, moose hunting, pulverizing groundhogs, etc. It's got some awesome ballistics, shoots flat, burns lots of powder! Already have a .300 WSM but in my opinion, you can't have enough magnums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 DocMort said: I have extensiv time with the 338 win mag, 300 roy, 300 win. Never really gone bigger, I mean have put 4 or 5 boxes through a 375 H&H but wouldn't call it extensive. Shot at 500 Nitro express about 10 times. I liked it hit hard on both ends. The .338 RUM is in a whole different recoil class than the .300's you mention and the .338 Win. It is much closer to the .375 H&H. But it will belt you somewhat more than even that. I've not shot the .500 NE so I can't comment as to a comparison there. DocMort said: What about the 375 Ruger then? You would need a good rangefinder and a scope with good, finger adjustable turrets. As an example: My .375 Weatherby tossing 250 gr. Sierra Game King at 3060 fps sighted dead-on at 250 yards is 68" low at 600 yards. With a 300 gr. Game King at 2800 fps it is 70" low at 600 with the same zero. Both loads generate just over 5200 ft/lbs at the muzzle. However the 250 gr. load is down to 1675 fps and 1560 ft/lbs at 600 yards. The 300 grainer is still going 1750 fps and carrying 2040 ft/lbs at the same distance. Uncle John's .338 RUM with a 225 AccuBond at 3100 sighted dead on at 250 yards is 52" low at 600 yards. While it kicks up 400 ft/lbs less energy at the muzzle, it retains 200 ft/lb more at 600 yards than my .375 Wby. Ain't ballistic coefficient neat?? The .375 Ruger, by comparison, starts a 300 grainer out about 150 fps slower than the Weatherby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I didn't even think the recoil of the 375 H n H was bad it was very manageable. I know the whole deal about the finger turrets and everything. Have shot a few deer past 500 with my 7mm rem wouldn't be scared to shoot an elk that far with it either but heck why not shoot a bigger louder gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleA Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) If your looking for factory rifle that will shoot right out the box in .338 caliber, look no further than the Sako TRG 42 in .338 Lapua. In the real world, the 338 RUM, 338 Lapua and 338-378 wby are ballistically even. All will push a 250gr to appx 3000fps, though the 300's will do bettter at extreme ranges but you have to have a faster twist to reliably stabilize them.Better brass is made for the Lapua but you will pay the price for it. The TRG's regardless of caliber, are known to be one of the best shooting factory rifles that rival customs rifles without the wait time. Speaking of myself, I feel that there is alot of investment of time and money into shooting one of the bigger long range guns. Just saying some people think that if they have a LR rifle of any sort, it's easy hitting distance targets. Nothing could be farther from the truth, it takes alot of range time, dealing with recoil, the added cost of ammo/components, detailed loading techniques and so on to be proficient and consistant. New for 2010,Savage has come out with a Lapua, it's quite a bit cheaper. Street price for the Sako is from $3-4.5K depending on the stock while Savage's site list msrp at $2200 so street price is probably around $1800 for theirs. ....then there is the glass, rings and mounts Edited December 27, 2009 by doubleA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowana Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I have to agree with Mr. Strut 10. I shoot a Weatherby 338-378. I shoot a Nosler 250 Gr partition and H1000 powder as well (Sometimes Reloader 25), a true 3000 fps cartridge. BUT, it takes a special person to control the trigger the way you need to for 5-600 yard work. None of my range buddies can shoot it accurately. Borrow a heavy .33 before laying out the cash. Realistically for deer, the 270 Weatherby maybe the Flat shooter of the bunch with high ballistic coefficient 140 gr bullets (like the Nosler Accubond). A Weatherby Accumark rifle in that caliber is really a semi custom rifle. Its built with a Criterion button rifled barrel and I believe an HS precision stock that is bedded using an aluminum block. ****' uv a rifle for stock. I have a 270 WSM and I believe the 270 Weatherby Mag will out shoot mine by 200 fps! That's smok'in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTINGMAN Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Why not go all out and get a 50 BMG of some type.If I had the cash I would have one of these in a heartbeat,guarantee to put down anything you would want to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 HUNTINGMAN said: Why not go all out and get a 50 BMG of some type.If I had the cash I would have one of these in a heartbeat,guarantee to put down anything you would want to shoot. A tad impractical carrying around a 30-40 lb. hunting rifle, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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