The_Kat Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I am surprised no comments have been made in here yet........one step closer to a social america. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I agree, we need to get this man out of office and the dems out of the houses before we become a commi country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I haven't had time to comment. To busy loadin up my guns with ammo.!!!!!!!:angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Remember this next November guys. We'll more than likely be paying out the butt in taxes but maybe we can get this turned over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted December 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 as far as I know it's not a done deal right???? Doesn't the House have to pass it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 The House has to combine the bill they have with the bill that the Senate just passed. From what I hear and understand that can be a task itself. Hopefully this thing will not get passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Here is a bit more on this http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/24/senate-poised-pass-health-care-reform/. No it is not necessarily a done deal, but sure not looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 i'm hoping the conservatives launch a fast constitutional inquiry and that the public is ruining the christmas holiday for all those who voted for the bill. otherwise, we're witnessing the destruction of america. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzilla45 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Unfortunately this thing is too far along to not pass. They will force it through. My hope is that constitutional lawyers can find something illegal with it. It certainly seems illegal to me to force people to buy something. Either way come Nov 2010, we better vote all of these people out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samfinden Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Socialized Medicine in America I'm not very happy with the situation we're in now, and have a feeling that the majority of Americans are in my corner. If this isn't enough proof that an idealistic, liberal senate, house, and white house will run our ship aground, I don't know what is. Part of me, as I'm sure is true with many of you, wants to say "I told you so" to all of the Obama supporters that I have argued with in the recent past, but we all know that would do no good. The best hope we have now is that the mistake our nation made in November 2008 (electing a nearly socialist candidate to the highest office in the world) will not be repeated in November 2010. Hopefully the starry eyed democrats will realize that they've erred by then, swallow their pride, and do what needs to be done in the voting booth. Then we can get back on track toward being the accountable and self-reliant nation our founders set us up to be. Be well, my friends. http://www.samfinden.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Bucknasty Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I figure even if it does get passed, it's going to take awhile for us to start hurting from it. The same goes for the weapon bans and restrictions that we all know are coming. I've noticed that all Presidents hold off on burning our britches until the second term when there's no hope for reelection. I hope the guy doesn't get reelected but, I don't see how he couldn't unless something big happens between now and then. In today's political climate, it will take the GOP putting up someone pretty moderate who can take votes from all parties, and we all know that that isn't going to happen. For some reason, the only people who can get nominated in this country are "polar" candidates. For example, there are clearly some problems with our health care system but, I've yet to hear someone in a prominent position say, "Our health care system needs to be tweaked." Instead they either want to overhaul the entire system of they want to do nothing whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I'm thinking if it hurts bad enough people may get up and do something. Right now they seem more concerned with football than politics. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 i see our nation more upset right now with it's politicians than ever in my years of paying attention. the 10% plus unemployment, the the socializing of america, the unprecedented wasteful spending, the ignoring of the tea party folks.... well, it all adds up to obama having the worst approval rating of any president, ever, after 1 year in office. while obama is trying to change america forever, folks who voted for him are very upset. next november, obama will get a very rude awakening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I figure even if it does get passed, it's going to take awhile for us to start hurting from it. The same goes for the weapon bans and restrictions that we all know are coming. I've noticed that all Presidents hold off on burning our britches until the second term when there's no hope for reelection. I hope the guy doesn't get reelected but, I don't see how he couldn't unless something big happens between now and then. In today's political climate, it will take the GOP putting up someone pretty moderate who can take votes from all parties, and we all know that that isn't going to happen. For some reason, the only people who can get nominated in this country are "polar" candidates. For example, there are clearly some problems with our health care system but, I've yet to hear someone in a prominent position say, "Our health care system needs to be tweaked." Instead they either want to overhaul the entire system of they want to do nothing whatsoever. i see our nation more upset right now with it's politicians than ever in my years of paying attention. the 10% plus unemployment, the the socializing of america, the unprecedented wasteful spending, the ignoring of the tea party folks.... well, it all adds up to obama having the worst approval rating of any president, ever, after 1 year in office. while obama is trying to change america forever, folks who voted for him are very upset. next november, obama will get a very rude awakening. Seems a lot of folks have become pretty unhappy with their choice and with what the liberals have done especially concerning healthcare despite the majority of folks not approving. That does also come back on Obama as well. I would tend to agree with Steve and think at this point it is likely Obama will be a one term president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) The orders for durable goods is rising and unemployment may drop accordingly, which may help ease things. About 47% of U.S. households have no income tax liability (I didn't believe it either so I googled it and CNN reported it) so most of what's happening won't hurt them. Add these two factors in and this idiot stands a chance of being re-elected. The only thing that may kill him is the lack of control of security from terrorism that is haunting him now. A few more instances of this may do it. Mark Edited January 7, 2010 by m gardner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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