ChrisSeb53 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Hey guys (and gals)... I have recently purchased a 2009 Diamond Iceman bow. I have been having some trouble getting it sighted in and it is not grouping very well for me even after i have gotten it tuned in at my local shop. I was wondering what kind of set up is working well for anybody else with an 09 Iceman. Im shooting a 30 inch draw with a 68 lb draw weight. Please let me know what you guys think... what kind of rests do you recommend or what kind of set up do you have with the same bow? Thanks- ChrisSeb53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtrailer Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 that's a long draw length, I would be interested in your height. beyond that, are your shots grouping at all? whats your arrow specs(grains/length..etc)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Mine has a whisker biscuit, and Beman ICS hunter 340's at 29 inches, blazers and a 100 grain field point. My Draw is 29 1/2 but I don't like my arrows to be behind my hand with broadheads on. It shoots darts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSeb53 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I'm 6'-2"... and i wasnt grouping at all really with the rip cord rest on it...the local shop said they didnt like them and said they have had problems in the past with fletching contact on faster bows so we both kind of assumed that was the problem with my bow not grouping... i just switched to the trophy taker top slot full containment but i dont think the person at gander mountain set it up properly... the tech set it up so that it is sitting below the shelf.. i haven't had the chance to shoot it really because I just had string leaches put on my bow string and now my G5 peep is rotating... the arrows im shoting are cabelas stalker extreme with quikspin vanes.. i believe they are cut at 29 1/2" and are 9.3 gpi... easton nocks and inserts and 100 gr field points and broadheads... im pretty frustrated at this point and I am thinking about just selling my bow... Before i was shooting a Reflex buckskin which makes MUCH more noise and vibration than the iceman but my groups are awesome at 30 yards and even 20 compared to what im getting out of the iceman... i dont know what to do :bang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtrailer Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 6' 2" you probably are about 30"...do you have any good bowtechs in the area, not knockin your gander mountain one of the best techs i know comes from my local gander, but yours could be a noob. have them check for cam lean and such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodtrails Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 6' 2" you probably are about 30"...do you have any good bowtechs in the area, not knockin your gander mountain one of the best techs i know comes from my local gander, but yours could be a noob. have them check for cam lean and such Agreed!:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bow hunter steve Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 well i dont shoot an iceman i shoot a diamond rock and im thinkin ur draw weight is probly to much for the arrow possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSeb53 Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) I shoot cabelas stalker extreme arrows which are 9.3 gpi and are rated for 65- 80 lbs and work with my draw length according to the chart on the arrow box... the arrows total weight is 308.35 grains not including veins... oh yeah and add 100 gr for the field tips/ broadheads i use.. so its probably a 425 gr arrow... something around there Edited January 19, 2010 by ChrisSeb53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSeb53 Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I looked at the bow myself recently and it looks like cam lean may be the issue... I'm going to go back to cabelas and have them check it out... they should be less busy than the time i purchased the bow (the day after Christmas).. We'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earnhardts12000 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 thats what i was thinkin ur arrows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2008 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I looked at the bow myself recently and it looks like cam lean may be the issue... I'm going to go back to cabelas and have them check it out... they should be less busy than the time i purchased the bow (the day after Christmas).. We'll see A lot of accuracy has to do with the shooter. A lot of people think its the bows fault, but it isn't about 75% of the time. Take it to an actual archery shop and get it looked at. Cabelas won't know what do with it if there is something wrong with it. When the Iceman first came out people at Cabelas were saying that a 70 lb Iceman could go down to 40 lbs. WRONG! Don't think I'd trust them if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSeb53 Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 thanks for the advice... i will go to a small archery shop before i take my trip to cabelas (the warranty is backed by them)... @20 yards my arrows are touching but @ 25 yds or further they spread WAY out with no particular pattern... not to sure what to make of this... does it sound like cam lean to any of you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricfirefighter Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 A lot of accuracy has to do with the shooter. A lot of people think its the bows fault, but it isn't about 75% of the time. Take it to an actual archery shop and get it looked at. Cabelas won't know what do with it if there is something wrong with it. When the Iceman first came out people at Cabelas were saying that a 70 lb Iceman could go down to 40 lbs. WRONG! Don't think I'd trust them if I were you. I sure hope you know every tech at every Cabelas. Cause if you don't you are talking out your ass. There are good and bad techs were ever you go, I've gotten bad advise from the small shops as well as the big guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2008 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 thanks for the advice... i will go to a small archery shop before i take my trip to cabelas (the warranty is backed by them)... @20 yards my arrows are touching but @ 25 yds or further they spread WAY out with no particular pattern... not to sure what to make of this... does it sound like cam lean to any of you? Have you had it paper tuned? Warranty should be backed by diamond not through the particular dealer you purchased it from. Any Diamond dealer should be able to help you if there is a warranty issue with a bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2008 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) I sure hope you know every tech at every Cabelas. Cause if you don't you are talking out your . There are good and bad techs were ever you go, I've gotten bad advise from the small shops as well as the big guys. I know the cabelas techs around here and they have some knowledge, but not enough to help with a situtaion like that. Yes there are good techs, but more often there are bad ones and people come back to the shop I go to with a bad experience from Cabelas. I have friends at Gander Mountain who are great with archery equipment. You're taking more of a chance at a box store, unless you know a certain person there that has good knowledge about fixing up bows. I'm sorry if my post offended you. It's my opinion about Cabelas and you don't have to like it, but I think your reply is crossing the line. Edited February 10, 2010 by Tom2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBKSC Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 If your wing span is the same as your heigth (normal), you are inbetween 29" and 30" draw. Because it is so easy to change the draw length, why don't you go to your pro shop and have them set the bow at 29"? I might help and if it doesn't it will be easy to change back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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