redkneck Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) Small donations can make a big difference to the people in Haiti. Text "Haiti" to 90999 and your cell phone bill will receive an extra $10 charge, all of which will be passed on to the Red Cross without so much as a penny staying with your cell phone carrier. Blood donations are also needed. I'm going to do both, and encourage others here to do the same. http://www.redcross.org/portal/site/en/menuitem.94aae335470e233f6cf911df43181aa0/?vgnextoid=15c0c5a210826210VgnVCM10000089f0870aRCRD Edited January 14, 2010 by redkneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTPROFamily Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have a different opinion. I believe it is God's way of taking care of countries who are overpopulated and if we send money they will just have more babies and be in worst shape than they are already. I do feel sorry for the injured and believe they need help but why does the US always have to be the one. I don't see other countries running to help us during floods, tornadoes,and other acts of God. We are also in a crisis! Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Wow, I thought I was a calloused individual at times....I can understand that no one comes to our rescue. But we are the wealthiest nation on the planet in the history of man's existence. We don't care for the needy to get some return we do it because it is right. I will be donating money but I am going to wait until everything shakes out. Right now, world governments will be initiating the immediate rescue and assistance response. Once the relief agencies assess the need and figure out where money is needed, I will contribute then. I worry that money just gets lost at times while people figure out procedures and policies to deal with the influx of donations. Plus, the Red Cross will need back end assistance as disease starts to spread. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have a different opinion. I believe it is God's way of taking care of countries who are overpopulated and if we send money they will just have more babies and be in worst shape than they are already. I do feel sorry for the injured and believe they need help but why does the US always have to be the one. I don't see other countries running to help us during floods, tornadoes,and other acts of God. We are also in a crisis! Just my opinion. I concur 100% We have our own problems here. Plus, we, as the world population, are living way outside of the means of the earth. Over population is out of control and population control is in need big time. Natural Disasters happen but not often enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTPROFamily Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I don't know how many billions this will cost us but I hope that China doesn't call in their loan anytime soon. Our schools are having to cut back on teachers, supplies and activities. Where will all of this money come from? If folks want to donate I understand but I am sure it will just take more of our taxes to help Haiti with their loss. That is what is wrong. People donating is fine but to put more burden on us is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 My you guys are apathetic! The world is overpopulated but if your family member dies, I'm not going to sit here and post that it's doing the population problem good. I'm not on the Pat Robertson bandwagon, those ppl did not bring it on themselves. Pathetic Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Where much is given much is expected. I hear what you are saying but let me make one fact clear to you right now. Our problem here in the United States is NOT that we are overgiving to disasters around the world. BTW we are pledging 100 million. The problem in the United States is that an idiot population cares more about who is winning American Idol than they do who their President and Congressmen are. The problem in America is that our SENATE has been spending money that we don't have on programs to take care of people from the cradle to the grave. The problem in America is that there is a large block of people are freaking LAZY and want the government to take care of them. So I am calling straight and pure nonsense that we are firing police and teachers in America because of contributing to natural disasters. We are firing police and teachers because of our POLITICIANS and the stewards of those POLITICIANS (US) don't care to pay attention and fire someone who sells out their constituents by changing their vote simply because they are paid off by other Senators. I think it is quite arrogant to point your finger at people who just suffered a horrific natural disaster and tell them that they deserved it because God doesn't love them or wants to thin them out. Natural disasters happen everywhere--there isn't anywhere you live that can't be touched by a natural disaster of some sort--earthquake, tornado, flood, hurricane, blizzard, etc. No one is immune from a natural disaster so I would be careful telling someone whose turn it is to suffer this time that they basically deserved it for wanting a family and to live the best life they can. You could have been born a poor black Haitian my friend. Likewise, the next natural disaster could find itself on your doorstep. It's our obligation to help those in need and that generocity is what makes us the greatest nation on the planet. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTPROFamily Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have lost a son before. In 1990 our 19 year old son was killed in a car accident so I do know grief. We didn't even get a phone call from the boy who caused it until 30 days later.No remorse at all.I may be a little hard but I feel all of this debt is on our kids shoulders. I also feel sorry for the people of Haiti and their country but I don't feel that it is up to the US taxpayers to do all of the helping. There are many other countries who could also help. If people want to donate that is their choice but to make taxpayers foot all of the money is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Really sorry about your son.....I can't imagine. Just an FYI, just about every major nation is contributing to this relief effort. We aren't alone. I completely agree with you on the spending otherwise. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I concur 100% Over population is out of control and population control is in need big time. Natural Disasters happen but not often enough. I hope that the next one doesn't happen to you for this kind of attitude. WoW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 My you guys are apathetic! The world is overpopulated but if your family member dies, I'm not going to sit here and post that it's doing the population problem good. I'm not on the Pat Robertson bandwagon, those ppl did not bring it on themselves. Pathetic Really. I don't believe I made any personal remarks like you have just started to do. Taking what was said personal and then calling someone names as well as assuming is Pathetic. Where much is given much is expected. I hear what you are saying but let me make one fact clear to you right now. Our problem here in the United States is NOT that we are overgiving to disasters around the world. BTW we are pledging 100 million. The problem in the United States is that an idiot population cares more about who is winning American Idol than they do who their President and Congressmen are. The problem in America is that our SENATE has been spending money that we don't have on programs to take care of people from the cradle to the grave. The problem in America is that there is a large block of people are freaking LAZY and want the government to take care of them. So I am calling straight and pure nonsense that we are firing police and teachers in America because of contributing to natural disasters. We are firing police and teachers because of our POLITICIANS and the stewards of those POLITICIANS (US) don't care to pay attention and fire someone who sells out their constituents by changing their vote simply because they are paid off by other Senators. I think it is quite arrogant to point your finger at people who just suffered a horrific natural disaster and tell them that they deserved it because God doesn't love them or wants to thin them out. Natural disasters happen everywhere--there isn't anywhere you live that can't be touched by a natural disaster of some sort--earthquake, tornado, flood, hurricane, blizzard, etc. No one is immune from a natural disaster so I would be careful telling someone whose turn it is to suffer this time that they basically deserved it for wanting a family and to live the best life they can. You could have been born a poor black Haitian my friend. Likewise, the next natural disaster could find itself on your doorstep. It's our obligation to help those in need and that generocity is what makes us the greatest nation on the planet. New Are you talking to me? If so, you need to go back and reread and please copy and paste everything that i said that relates to that paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I hope that the next one doesn't happen to you for this kind of attitude. WoW! Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Why not? Because wishing a natural disaster on anyone is viscious? Why would I want a natural disaster to happen to you? New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Oh, and one more thing. Lets be sure turn use the religion and race card somewhere in here. Because we all know that has everything to do with something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) I have a different opinion. I believe it is God's way of taking care of countries who are overpopulated I don't think the Lord is worried about population control Darla and Ben, that's a man-made, self preservation idea.. JMHO God wants us and expects us to love our neighbours, like ourselves. The question is (as was asked in the bible), "Who is our neighbour?"...and I think we all know the answer to that. Maybe, just maybe God allows these things to happen, in order to open up some doors so the gospel can be heard . again, JMHO:) Love ya Darla PS..Well said Newarcher Edited January 14, 2010 by buckee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Because wishing a natural disaster on anyone is viscious? Why would I want a natural disaster to happen to you? New No where did I wish it on someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Are you talking to me? If so, you need to go back and reread and please copy and paste everything that i said that relates to that paragraph. Ummmmm, if I might paraphrase your opinion stated above: Perhaps 100,000 people who are living their lives just died and your more or less said "Good, we need more natural disasters". Perhaps I misunderstood you or misinterpreted what you said--I hope so--because if I didn't you are one of the most calloused individuals I might have ever known. These people were living their lives as best they could and you seem to think they deserved what they got and hope for more disasters like this. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) No where did I wish it on someone. I concur 100% We have our own problems here. Plus, we, as the world population, are living way outside of the means of the earth. Over population is out of control and population control is in need big time. Natural Disasters happen but not often enough. How many people would have to die in natural disasters to satisfy? Edited January 14, 2010 by Newarcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Ummmmm, if I might paraphrase your opinion stated above: Perhaps 100,000 people who are living their lives just died and your more or less said "Good, we need more natural disasters". Perhaps I misunderstood you or misinterpreted what you said--I hope so--because if I didn't you are one of the most calloused individuals I might have ever known. These people were living their lives as best they could and you seem to think they deserved what they got and hope for more disasters like this. New Your assumptions amaze me. You trying to put words in my mouth saying that I think they desevved what they got. I would love a quote and not a "paraphrase" of truth when I said this or even remotely hinted at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 End it here folks....you can debate this in PM's. Not here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Your assumptions amaze me. You trying to put words in my mouth saying that I think they desevved what they got. I would love a quote and not a "paraphrase" of truth when I said this or even remotely hinted at it. Once again: YOUR QUOTE I concur 100% We have our own problems here. Plus, we, as the world population, are living way outside of the means of the earth. Over population is out of control and population control is in need big time. Natural Disasters happen but not often enough. Maybe 100,000 people just died and you say "Natural Disasters happen but not often enough" By all means, please explain. What body count would satisfy you to the point where you would call it and say "gee, I think that is enough natural disasters for 2010?". Perhaps turn on the TV and watch CNN or Fox for a couple hours and look at the suffering on these people's faces....especially the kids. I don't get your position, I really don't. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Here ya go popgun.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 i don't know. they got 3 billion in the past 8 years, and no one can account for it. i've sent my money to salvation army. they use it properly, and account for every penny. i want to see real people getting real food and doctors. our goverment can't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 i don't know. they got 3 billion in the past 8 years, and no one can account for it. i've sent my money to salvation army. they use it properly, and account for every penny. i want to see real people getting real food and doctors. our goverment can't do that. Red Cross is not my favorite charity, a lot of waste goes on there, I give to the Salvation Army a lot more than them. However I'll drop ten bucks to get 8 dollars worth of food/medicine headed that way, or to help replenish what's here at home, they really do some good work although not the most effecient group. No doubt the Hatians are plagued by a corrupt government, and if I was to bet, I'd say they always will be that way. .... we're all the same in the eyes of God.... those folks are suffering more than anyone here can imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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