Chrud Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Tons of bad reports....only a few out of the dozen fly consistent. Why would you stick THAT much money into arrows that have that bad of tolerances? At over $100/dozen, the are only +/- 0.005" and +/- 2 grains per dozen. For less, you can get GT Pro's, which are +/- 0.001" and +/- 1 grain per dozen. Yes, the do penetrate better with fieldpoints. Once a broadhead is on, it makes a hole so big and blood causes no resistance. The "better penetration" claim is nothing but a marketing ploy. They actually don't penetrate any better than an arrow of the same weight with broadheads. Over-hyped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBUCK Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them Shot them this year and absolutely love them. They are the only shaft that I found works with my muzzys consitently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2500HD Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them So far the Axis have been the best flying arrow I have used with my set up yet. Others were ACC's and Beman ICS. They are for sure the toughest arrow I have used. I only purchased 6 arrows and have used two of them to practice, take two deer, a coyote two trees and a direct hit on a rock that was under the leaves on a straight down shot from 25' up. The arrows are still in my quiver working flawless. As long as they hold up I see no reason to change. I am very pleased with these arrows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them [ QUOTE ] I understand that blood causes no real resistance worth mentioning. But there are ribs on both sides of the deer, and shoulder bones. I think that better penetration is a bit more than a marketing ploy. [/ QUOTE ] The broadhead cuts a hole bigger than 1". As soon as that broadhead is penetrated, the small diameter does nothing. What broadhead are you using? ONLY the NAP Crossfire is the same base diameter as the Axis. Using two 400 grain arrows, one being the Axis, I doubt there would be any penetration advantage on game with a broadhead. But, as much as I think that the "increase penetriation" is just a marketing ploy, I'm probably more upset that people are spending that much money for something that has tolerances that doesn't even come close to cheaper arrows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born4it Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them I don't know where you guys buy your arrows, but at my pro shop and some of the ones around here they're about 86 bucks for a dozen, and you can get them WAY WAY cheaper on ebay, and some sellers will even cut them and fletch them for you before they send them! Just a suggestion Good luck! Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them i bought these before last season and they shoot great...no complaints here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisconsinboy Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them i bought some last hunting season and am happy with them. i lost one though when i missed a 10 point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2500HD Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them People were saying that the GTPros are much better for less $$$ but to me they look like they are about the same price if not more depending where you get them. Just checked three random prices and the GTPros avg price was $89.33/doz arrows and the Axis was $85.00/doz for arrows. I'm sure that local shops differ quite a bit for either one but to me price is not a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them [ QUOTE ] While this slice may be longer that the diameter of the arrow shaft but the shaft is still effected by drag as it enters the wound. [/ QUOTE ] The only way the shaft diameter might even matter is if the base of the broadhead is the same exact size. A 400 grain "standard" arrow and a 400 grain Axis will likely both penetrate the same with broadheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them I still wouldn't pay that kind of money for arrows with that sloppy of tolerances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iabow Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them This is just my experience w/ the Axis arrorws. First they shot very well for me, at lest better then my beamans, no complaints there. Second I did have problems with the durability of them. Had one split on 1/4" plywood(test shot) shot straight into it at 20yds. not with the beaman. Along those same lines towards the end of deer season this year, I was out in -0 windchill weather when I took an open(no limbs in the way)shot at a doe. I noticed the arrow fly way over her back, which I couldn't figure out how I did that. But on further inspection the last 6-8" of my arrow was laying 10yds in front of where the doe was. Meaning it broke on the way to her, explaining my high shot. I couldn't find the rest of the arrow just the back where it appered it just came apart and unwraped(which was a yellowish color spirled out past the broken black carbon). That made me say "YIKES ". That is just my experience though. This coming year its either easton alum. or goldtip, leaning towards alum you can understand why. Oh ya forgot to mention I always inspect my carbon arrows before shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iabow Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them Forgot to add, I did harvest a big doe with the Axis and didn't see any better penetration then with my beamans. That was a muzzy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them Thanks for the first hand experience with the penetration on an animal with an Axis, IA. If you guys really think your Axis arrows are great, I would suggest looking into the Beman MFX. They have a little tighter tolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them [ QUOTE ] They have a little tighter tolerance [/ QUOTE ] Tolerance smolerance.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2500HD Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them [ QUOTE ] Thanks for the first hand experience with the penetration on an animal with an Axis, IA. If you guys really think your Axis arrows are great, I would suggest looking into the Beman MFX. They have a little tighter tolerance. [/ QUOTE ] Ahhh....Mr. Moderator...if the Axis users already think the arrow is great and it works great for them, then why would they need to look at a different arrow? What did you leave the GT spamming staff and now jump on the MFX bandwagon or are you just taking another chance to bash the AXIS arrows again. Still getting old! You did see the thread on brand bashing and zero tolerance didn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them I'm not bashing them. Bashing is saying they suck. I'm giving my opinion of them. I wouldn't spend that kind of money for them. What do you think was the reason that Beman came out with the MFX? Easton and Beman are partners, Easton owns them. I think Beman made a HIT arrow because there was room for improvement. If the Axis was as good as it could be, I highly doubt that Beman would have their own version. Or, Beman's specs would be identical to the Easton. I think Easton knows there was room for improvement and let Beman take care of the newer, better version of the HIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2500HD Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them Sorry...I missed where it said if you use the word "suck" only you are bashing. My appologies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them I don't like them. That's my opinion. I gave you reasons why I don't like them. Would you rather I just said I didn't like them and not give any reasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut-Nut Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them I messed up! I intended to buy a dozen AXIS arrows and ended up with C2's in Realtree HD! i was intending to wait a few months to get the AXIS, but as I was leaving the Harrisburg Sportshow, I saw the C2's for 54.95 (fletched) a dozen. I knew that was a good price, but I thought they were the AXIs. I still think I got a good price on the C2"s. My question is this- WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE C2's and the AXIS? other than the diameter of the arrow? I know the AXIS are supposed to be thinner. DID I get a good VALUE for the Camo C2's for 54.95? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them I wasn't a big fan of the C2 Hardwoods Green HD arrows I had. They shot good, but not great. What type of vanes or feathers are on them. I had Easton Diamonds and I didn't like them at all. Possibly the worst vanes I've had on an arrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut-Nut Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them Thanks Chrud- not sure of the vane. I can always refletch with AAE. I want them for hunting next fall, but if I'm not satisfied with how they fly, they will be relegated to practice and I'll look for a better hunting arrow. BTW Chrud, what did you pay for your C2's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadeye270 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them grains per in. is the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them [ QUOTE ] BTW Chrud, what did you pay for your C2's? [/ QUOTE ] WAY too much! But for the price you paid, you did fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut-Nut Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them Thanks Chrud, that's all I wanted to know! They were marked 99.95 list price, marked down to 54.95- just wasn't sure if that list price was exaggerated or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Re: Easton ST axis...anyone used them The $99.95 is far too much for them. Mine were only around $65 or $70 all done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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