buckee Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) My question is this. For a while now, Iran has been capable of making nuclear weapons. Not only capable, but is engaged in making them as we speak. As most Christian folks know, they will be aimed at Israel first and foremost. The question is this, does Israel or we wait until they are attacked, or do we attack first. The question is simple. Do we stand beside Israel and the world for that matter, in their time of need, or not? The current president has come along at a most crucial and critical time in the History of mankind, and I fear he will do nothing. So you know where I stand, but I'm not sure where Canada stands either. The news media on both sides of our border has been reluctant to report on Iran's progress for fear of alarming us. WHY? Iran is not making nuclear weapons just for kicks and giggles, or just to feel secure. They are making them for a purpose, and Israel is their first target. Edited February 19, 2010 by buckee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I say strike Iran first, and destroy their nuclear capability. NOONE in their right mind should want them having that type of capability. If they strike first with the nukes, alot more people will suffer than just the Israeli's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 The thing is...if Iran does strike...they'll be wiped off the face of the earth within five minutes by Israel. Israel has one of the most powerful militaries in the world. I am a Christian and have faith that God has not forgotten His chosen people. I think it will be the worst decision Iran will ever make if they choose to attack Israel. Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 The thing is...if Iran does strike...they'll be wiped off the face of the earth within five minutes by Israel. Israel has one of the most powerful militaries in the world. I am a Christian and have faith that God has not forgotten His chosen people. I think it will be the worst decision Iran will ever make if they choose to attack Israel. Dakota Good post Dakota. :yes: It is hard to give a response to this without going into Biblical beliefs. So with that being said, Iran may destroy other nations with their nukes but they will never destroy Israel. I say we take out Iran's nuke facilities for the sake of other nations, but the current president will never do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 The thing is...if Iran does strike...they'll be wiped off the face of the earth within five minutes by Israel. Israel has one of the most powerful militaries in the world. I am a Christian and have faith that God has not forgotten His chosen people. I think it will be the worst decision Iran will ever make if they choose to attack Israel. Dakota I agree buddy, I agree Israel is fully aware of what Iran is up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Realtree Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I suppose their current building of the weapons will only make it to a certain point and then it will be wiped off the face of the earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layin on the smackdown Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 If there is any country in the world that should not be handling, manufacturing or using nuclear weapons, it is Iran...I feel they are extremely unstable as a whole, and need to be dealt with now, before anyone starts launching any nukes...Though i do agree with Dakota, my greatest fear is the domino effect....Once one country or power engages in nuclear warefare, i can only think that others will follow - setting the stage for a wold wide nuclear war... To answer your question Steve - I think our president needs to sack up, and start doing what needs to be done, instead of dancing around it like a total fairy. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Obamma being a Muslim is in what I'd say is "Iraq and a hard spot"..LOL But with all seriousness...the Bible says whoever stands with Isreal God will bless that nation and curse the nation that curses Isreal..kinda a no brainer here folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 If I were elected President today, Iran would be in shambles by this time tomorrow. That's day 1. The United Nations is, has been, and will always be anti-Israel. If they are saying that they are in fear of Iran, then things are really bad. I don't know what Israel will do but they aren't shy about protecting themselves but I am not sure they possess the military might to hit all of the reactors and refinement sites at the same time. If Israel strikes, look out. It will probably unite all the islam nations against them. America has shown itself to be no friend of himself after the election of a muslim. I would expect that if Israel attacks Iran, America will do nothing but chastise Israel and would probably not protect Israel. Obama is a muslim through and through and will not help Israel. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I think that we are selling lots of neat military stuff to our friends in the middle east right now (and Tiawan too), but that could just be one way for the government to get out of debt. I know we are training foreign pilots too. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I know we're working lots of hours trying to keep up with recent aerospace orders. Something's going on. As for Israel. All they need is our support. They can do some ingenious things with weaponry. Like using old retrofitted 2nd world war tanks to beat the best in the world during the 7 day war. If I was Iran I'd be scared blue right now. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 It's not a good situation at all, but to those that think we can simply launch a strike on Iranian nuclear facilities and take care of the problem, I think that's only going to make things worse. I'd like to see the US step up the black ops and propaganda machine to nurture the opposition movement over there. As for the UN, they aint going to do crap as long as the chinese have any say, not that they're going to do much anyway. It's a bad situation, I know the Israelis are capable of taking care of business, but when that day comes, I dont think it will be like the last time they hit the Iraqi facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 What would Obama do in the event Iran strikes any country? That is a good question Steve and lets all hope we don't have to find out. If it were up to me Iran would have been given an ultimatum some time ago, forget the UN, if Iran did not comply their facilities would be destroyed by whatever means required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDog Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) The thing is...if Iran does strike...they'll be wiped off the face of the earth within five minutes by Israel. Israel has one of the most powerful militaries in the world. I am a Christian and have faith that God has not forgotten His chosen people. I think it will be the worst decision Iran will ever make if they choose to attack Israel. Dakota Well said! Not much more I can add, But I think we need to take care of Iran, and help protect Israel. Edited February 20, 2010 by BigDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 What would Obama do in the event Iran strikes any country? That is a good question Steve and lets all hope we don't have to find out. If it were up to me Iran would have been given an ultimatum some time ago, forget the UN, if Iran did not comply their facilities would be destroyed by whatever means required. Yes, Iraq was given an ultimatum and after 10 years of non-compliance, that is why they were invaded, in spite of the reasons given at the time. Iran is more dangerous than Iraq was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Concur.... I personally don't think--in hindsight--that Saddam was seriously pursuing anything beyond mustard gas, etc. Nor do I think that Saddam would have lobbed anything at Israel. In reading Saddam's statements after he was caught and that of his generals, they were very afraid of their arab neighbors. Iran on the other hand is led by a man who believes a prophet in a well will not show himself until he starts war with Israel and the US. If he had an ICBM and a nuke, they would probably launch it today. Israel will not be set upon until the battle of Armaggedon. Nor will Israel's enemies be able to destroy her. Some random thoughts: 1) We can thank Jimmy Carter for both the rise of radical islam in Iran (I am sure Jimmy's happy about this as he hates the US and never met a dictator he didn't love). I have often thought about driving down to plains and poo'ing on his lawn. 2) We can thank Jimmy Carter for the fact that North Korea has/will soon have a nuke. We made a great deal to provide the reactors and the fuel to run them in exchange for nothin more than a promise from a madman that he wouldn't do anything bad with the spent fuel. I would call Carter a fool but I believe he fulfilled his objective...perhaps devious would be a better word. 3) We can thank Jimmy Carter 2...aka obama for not confronting the Chinese about their military buildup including nuclear subs and for letting the Chinese and Russians supply Iran, North Korea, and Venezuela with nuclear technology and supplies. 4) Had it been me in office when North Korea launched those missiles, they wouldn't have. I would have obliterated the missiles and the pads. But we let them march toward the point of no return. But I guess that all of this is leading towards the end times and the point where all forces come against Israel. God destroyed humanity with water once and promised never to do it again. But he did say he would destroy it with fire--if that's fire from a nuclear war or volcano I don't know. Both scary and heartening times. Gotta make sure yourself and your family are ready to meet your maker as you never know when Christ will return. I thought we were far away from the end time but look at what happened as a result of the financial crisis. People and governments wiped out and talk of a one world currency. Not from fringe groups but world power governments. Russia and China propose dropping the US Dollar as the reserve currency of the world and our Treasury Secretary says "we'd be open to that". New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 3) We can thank Jimmy Carter 2...aka obama for not confronting the Chinese about their military buildup including nuclear subs and for letting the Chinese and Russians supply Iran, North Korea, and Venezuela with nuclear technology and supplies. He's not going to confront them for a reason; of all the national debt we owe and all the international loans we've taken out 2/3rds of it goes to China! China is our primary "backer"! So of course BO's not going to confront them. Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Yes, Iraq was given an ultimatum and after 10 years of non-compliance, that is why they were invaded, in spite of the reasons given at the time. Iran is more dangerous than Iraq was. Think Iran is very dangerous Steve, and I think they have been farther along with their nuclear ambitions than a lot of people give them credit for. Kinda feel like the UN has been pretty well worthless, we need a leader in this country who is not afraid to follow through and make an example without being scared of the UN or how they will view our actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskybnd Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Obamma being a Muslim is in what I'd say is "Iraq and a hard spot"..LOL But with all seriousness...the Bible says whoever stands with Isreal God will bless that nation and curse the nation that curses Isreal..kinda a no brainer here folks! yea but i beleave our president being a muslum would side with irag, a leopard cant change his spots, and i think as some have said the end times are near, this country was formed on christain beliefs, how in the he-- did we ever let a muslum run it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 He's not going to confront them for a reason; of all the national debt we owe and all the international loans we've taken out 2/3rds of it goes to China! China is our primary "backer"! So of course BO's not going to confront them. Dakota Exactly. China and Russia have been undermining us for years now. They really ramped it up since we elected a gimmick. Imagine if Russia were to broker a deal with China for China to buy no more of our debt, Russia to sell no more oil to us, Venezuela to sell no more oil to us, and Mexico to sell no more oil to us. We would be done in short order. I literally get sick to my stomach and want to vomit when I realize what this disgrace...utter disgrace...has done to our country. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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