Ravin R10 man Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Senator Bayh As a practicing physician I have major concerns with the health care bill before Congress. I actually have read the bill and am shocked by the brazenness of the government's proposed involvement in the patient-physician relationship. The very idea that the government will dictate and ration patient care is dangerous and certainly not helpful in designing a health care system that works for all. Every physician I work with agrees that we need to fix our health care system, but the proposed bills currently making their way through congress will be a disaster if passed. I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens. Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self-insure!! Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill: THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get. Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!! Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC benefits for you. You have no choice! Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise. Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals' finances & a 'National ID Health card' will be issued! Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfer. Page 65 Sec 164: Is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & community organizations: (ACORN). Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the 'Exchange.' Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans -- The Govt will ration your health care! Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. (Translation: illegal aliens.) Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups (i.e. ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan. Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP members - your health care WILL be rationed!) Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. (No choice.) Page 12 4 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt monopoly. Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make. Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan. (NO choice!) Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part-time employees ANDtheir families. (Employees shouldn't get excited about this as employers will be forced to reduce its work force, benefits, and wages/salaries to cover such a huge expense.) Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! (See the last comment in parenthesis.) Page 150 Lines 9-13: A business with payroll between $251K & $401K who doesn't provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll. Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income. Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.) Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have access to ALL Americans' finances and personal records. Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that!) Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.) Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors: It doesn't matter what specialty you have trained yourself in -- you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY to tell me that's not Socialism!) Page 253 Line 10-18: The Govt sets the value of a doctor's time, profession, judgment, etc. (Literally-- the value of humans.) Page 265 Sec 1131: The Govt mandates and controls productivity for "private" HC industries. Page 268 Sec 1141: The federal Govt regulates the rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs. Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing! Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever the Govt deems preventable (i.e...re-admissions). Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors: If you treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -- the Govt will penalize you. Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt tells doctors what and how much they can own!) Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion. (The Govt is mandating that hospitals cannot expand.) Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have the opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. (Can you say ACORN?) Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: The Govt mandates establishment of=2 outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want -- rationing.) Page 341 Lines 3-9: The Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. (Forcing people into the Govt plan) Page 354 Sec 1177: The Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs people!' Unbelievable! Page 379 Sec 1191: The Govt creates more bureaucracy via a "Tele-Health Advisory Committee." (Can you say HC by phone?) Page 425 Lines 4-12: The Govt mandates "Advance-Care Planning Consult." (Think senior citizens end-of-life patients.) Page 425 Lines 17-19: The Govt will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. (And it's mandatory!) Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: The Govt provides an "approved" list of end-of-life resources; guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted suicide.') Page 427 Lines 15-24: The Govt mandates a program for orders on "end-of-life." (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!) Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used frequently as a patient's health deteriorates. Page 429 Lines 10-12: An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end-of-life plans.. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?) Page 429 Lines 13-25: The GOVT will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order. (I wouldn't want to stand before God after getting paid for THAT job!) Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end-of-life! (Again -- no choice!) Page 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services = Non-Profit Organizations. (Hello? ACORN Medical Services here!?!) Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy.(Which means Govt will insert itself into your marriage even.) Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services. Senator, I guarantee that I personally will do everything possible to inform patients and my fellow physicians about the dangers of the proposed bills you and your colleagues are debating. Furthermore, if you vote for a bill that enforces socialized medicine on the country and destroys the doctor-patient relationship, I will do everything in my power to make sure you lose your job in the next election. Respectfully, Stephen E. Fraser, MD Edited March 24, 2010 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Wonder when or if this is going to be made available to the general public, no way I am aware of as of yet to confirm whether those are accurate. I heard that some dems are admitting the bill(now law) has some serious problems, but they still opted to pass it despite knowing it was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 the dems will now start covering their tracks so they can get reelected. too late for them, i hope. i see a seething american public that knows it's been treaded on. this will be an interesting political year. i predict the dems will be voted out in mass. maybe that's just wishful thinking. liberal republicans will see the same fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 They threw a brick through representative Gifford's office here in Az. I guess most of them can barely use their phones to call out because they are getting so many calls to issue death threats and just call them low. :hammer1: I wonder how they feel now? It's only going to get worse as time goes along too. If I need to get mandatory insurance I guess I'll be on the forum from jail. Ooops, we don't have enough money to put me there anymore! Hope we have enough left to put the major players in passing this law in jail where they belong. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Here's an interesting fact: Physicians have the highest rate of suicide compared to any other line of work. Men have much higher rates than women unless the women is a physician, then the rates are the same. XT Man, don't let this throw you over the edge. (If passed) I sure hope this does not contribute to that statistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 There are a lot of states taking action (including law suits) over this bill. Oklahoma is on that list. I dont know if we can do anything about it now but I sure hope we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 68% in a recent poll said they would vote out every member of Congress. Both parties. There are people reading this that voted for amabo who never thought that any of this would happen--business as usual. IMHO, you owe the WORLD an apology because amabo is doing exactly what he said he would. Next is cap and trade which will add (even by democratic estimates) $1,500 a year in extra utility bills for your home. There is really no estimate to what will happen to the cost of products you buy every day as manufacturers have to pay taxes based on their carbon dioxide emissions. I hope that people take the time to vote...putting aside hunting/work/etc. Because this will be the most critical vote in this history of our Country, IMHO. If we don't start cutting government services significantly, we are going to be in serious trouble within 5 years. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Can anyone name me one business where the federal government got involved and the prices went down and quality went up? I think we'll see exactly the opposite in healthcare. Prices will go up (even more than they already have) and the level of care will go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 A small temporary victory... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/25/senate-return-health-house/ The bill will go back to the House where it will probably be reapproved. Someone asked in another thread why the vote was a Sunday. isolep did so because she knew that if the reps went back to their districts, she'd never get the votes. She kept them busy and away from the voters. The Dem from Michigan stupid stupak was duped by his party (abortions will be paid for by you and I) but don't let him fool you. He had every intention of voting for the bill from the outset because he said he would. In an interview he said that he would vote for it even if it contained abortion about a month before the vote actually happened. He feigned a no vote to get some lucrative airport cashola for his district. What amazes me is that these reps didn't read the bill. If I cornered one of them and made them tell me what's in the bill, not one of them could tell you what's in it. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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