Ohiobucks Posted February 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? Thanks for the info snap. Would like to hear more about brands, tolerances, details on bow setup, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? Can you test them at different distances? I noticed my CX's grouped tighter at 40 yards than the C2's did. I thought I saw a machine like that on a TV show once. It was used to take the torque out of paper tuning. I don't know...I like to shoot the bow myself to paper tune it. It would almost be like having a buddy sight in a rifle for you. It'll be pretty close, but not perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2500HD Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? [ QUOTE ] Whats the tolerances on your broadheads, inserts, nocks, and vanes/feathers. These all are factors along with the straightness of the arrow. Assuming your broadheads and all other aboved mentioned items are equal...the +- .001 or +- .005 arrows play a very very small part in the arrow flight. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly what I was thinking. There are way too many variables to even measure a noticable difference in tolerances. First of all how can the effect of arrow tolerance even be measured? We are talking about less than the thickness of a sheet of paper difference here. The graphics on the arrows are sometimes more than that. Cresting has to be more than .003". This probably makes the same amout of difference as arrow tolerance but how much does whiskers effect your shooting? Do you shoot better clean shaven vs. a beard? Do whiskers effect your anchor point? Nothing wrong with attention to detail or buying an arrow based on manufactures tolerances but as fas as effecting arrow flight for the average shooter...its not happening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted February 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? [ QUOTE ] not the average guy but then again when shooting a mathews your not just average!! [/ QUOTE ] Not just average or not quite average? Obviously not above average..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? [ QUOTE ] They shot many different brands and after shooting them...my buddy said he is prob. switching back to alum. arrows! [/ QUOTE ] Snapper, sorry but I'm dieing to ask you this question. After your buddy did all those test and then said he is probably switching back to alum. arrows, did he see something he didn't like in all the different brands of carbon arrows they tested compared to alum.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? check this out i got some new Easton fatboys from the ATA show 2 years ago.. they are .005 straightness .. when i got home and was getting ready to fletch them up , we decided to spin tune them first .. they were so crooked i had to laugh.. out of the dozen i got 8 were so bad i wouldnt have shot them no matter what... but i bet bucks that if i bought the Goldtip Pros that are hand weighed and .001 straightness i wouldnt find 8 out of a dozen that are bad ! you get what you pay for.. as for the shooting machine.. i think its called a Hooter Shooter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? I knew the GT Pro's were +/- 0.001", but I thought they were +/- 1 grain/dozen. It says +/- 0.5 grain. Cool! I think I'll be MUCH happier with the GT Pro's than I was with my C2's last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? [ QUOTE ] After your buddy did all those test and then said he is probably switching back to alum. arrows, did he see something he didn't like in all the different brands of carbon arrows they tested compared to alum.? [/ QUOTE ] I'm guessing it had something to do with the spline of the arrows. The technology for alum. has been around for a long time and they got it pretty much figured out. Carbons...I guess the tech. needs some work as far as the splining of the arrows. I'm not into this kind of stuff as much as other folks...I find something that works for me (reguardless of price or brand) and stick to it. Seems retarded to me to be debating about a few thousands of an inch in arrow straightness. I remember shooting a stick (literally) with a bailer twine string and using golden rods with no leaves as arrows when I was a kid. I have a witness that watched me shoot a wasp out of the air at approx. 10 feet with that set-up. What do you suppose the tolerance was on that weed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? [ QUOTE ] What do you suppose the tolerance was on that weed? [/ QUOTE ] Around here, we have no tolerance for weed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? I think the speed that the shooter is shooting will also need to be entered in to the equation. If you are shooting 300+ fps and are shooting broadheads, straightness will indeed be a factor. Slow setups up to 260 fps or so will not see it as much. The faster the arrow is the more critical the setup is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otdrzmn04 Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? NAh, worry more about the spline than straightness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Re: Can the average bowhunter tell a difference? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think spot shooters like Tony on our forums can, however, as a run of the mill, kill em in the woods bowhunter, I cant tell.....I shoot the heavier arrow for stability of my broadhead and FOC, front of center, but I dont care if they are .003 or .006 just 20 dollars more, and more than likely dont have it to spend...lol............al [/ QUOTE ] thanks Al for the kind words... and yes i can tell the differance between the 2 when i go to tuning my arrows for broadheads.. then i really see the differance.. straight is straight especially for carbons .. the aluminums are already that straight... the adverage bowhunter he might see the differance in his broadhead flight.. plus most of you just arent bowhunters anymore.. most of you shoot 3d and some of you are trying indoor target.. then yes the .001s will enable you to do all of these.. plus like JB said its for peace of mind.. you know there good so theres no excuse...plus i get them for dealer cost ....lol [/ QUOTE ] B.S. It's in the head if you know there is a difference. Not the shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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