Shawn Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 IMHO i dont see any need to keep going back and forth about this topic. Everyone has expressed their opinions on the video. On a argument of morals and ethics such as this one a victor will never be crowned. On a side note though i think this forum has its own group of "kids" regardless of age who always slam someone or something. Some people need to just give it a break. No i am not just referring to people in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Shawn, just as there is a fine line between morals and ethics there is just as fine a line between voicing an opinion and slamming someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I'm not discrediting your ethics, I just doubt that style of hunting based on past results, both my own and others. If you feel confident making that shot and you feel you can down it 100% of the time, then more power to ya. Never felt that you were Nathan, just wanted to give insight on it from someone who has been there and done that style of hunting and who has a firm belief in shot ethics. I'd be interested to see some statistics on this one though... Nathan Do you not know of any hunter who has lost a deer before? I know of several. They didn't place the shot correctly due to whatever reason (miscalculation on range, pulled the shot, etc) and the deer were never recovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TennesseeTurkey Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 oh my lord! I cant believe you guys reprimanded him for shooting a running deer at point blank range.... I didnt see all of the video so if one shot was taken over 10 yards maybe thats not in the best interest but you cant tell him that he gives hunters bad names for HUNTING.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I dont know why Im bothering to reply to this thread because its obviously not gonna change anyones opinion, but Im going to anyway. IMO there is no reason to shoot at running deer, i dont care how far or close they are. The way I see it is, if you spook a deer and you cant take the shot while they are standing still then its game over. They won and you lost. No shot. Watch them go and try again another time. You guys like to bring up the deer drives issue but I have never agreed with deer drives either. I know I am stepping on some toes here but I have never regarded deer drives as a real ethical way to harvest deer. Honestly, anyone can stand and let someone else run deer to them and shoot at them as they blow by. Its a different matter to have the deer come to you on there own, in a natural situation, without them knowing you are there and harvesting one. Thats how I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt or be Hunted Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I've been watching over this. Was not gonna say anything at all, Because it really don't matter what I say. I'm not gonna change there mind of the way they "hunt". But the way i see it, Hunting is not by doing a deer drive. Hunting is where you sit in the stand call the deer in and hope it gives you a shot. If not oh well try again. I don't think its right to shoot a deer while running the way it was. And the one of where he shot it in the neck, I don't think its right at all... not to hit a deer while running. With gun or bow. No, i would never do it. but ya know? It's not me in the video doing it. So i can't do nothing bout it. All I'm gonna say is I wish people would not do it. You can lose deer easy that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goinghuntin Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Do you not know of any hunter who has lost a deer before? I know of several. They didn't place the shot correctly due to whatever reason (miscalculation on range, pulled the shot, etc) and the deer were never recovered. I've lost too many deer myself. Shots that I was confident taking only to find out I misjudged the distance, or looked past that branch in the way. We have all done it. When I first started deer hunting I took FAR too many risky shots. But just cause I missed the shot doesn't mean I'll loosen up my morals. Half of the last shots I've put on a deer were heart shots, anchoring shots because I waited for a clear broadside shot. I've passed up on more shots than I've ever taken. But unfortunately I hurried a shot this last season because it was my only chance at the deer, a mistake I don't often make. And because of it I only fatally wounded it. Had to sit and watch it die for a full hour because I didn't have a clear shot to finish it and because if I moved to take a clear shot it would have spooked and run. Heartbreaking to say the least :no: If you have the skill to make a running shot then go for it buddy! Mine and my Dad's hunting buddy nailed a doe running at a trot at 100 yards, I wouldn't have taken the shot but he was good enough for it. I just don't feel confident to do it anymore, too many bad memories. Nathan P.S. I'm having a good time with this discussion guys, not sure about you I don't get many chances to debate hunting anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 This thread sure went south fast, just because a few of us didn't go "Yeehaw, what great shootin" I, along with Mike and a few others have calmly stated why we have the opinion we have, and all we're getting is slammed. I've said enough..over and out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I have enjoyed this discussion. It's always neat to see just how others view different styles of hunting. For the record, my comments were not meant to slam anyone, if they came across that way, I apologize. They were to get more insight into the views of those who don't like the deer drive hunting style. I'm glad Nathan stepped up to the plate and discussed it with me. That said, I think this thread has ran it's course. I make a motion to adjourn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I have enjoyed this discussion. It's always neat to see just how others view different styles of hunting. For the record, my comments were not meant to slam anyone, if they came across that way, I apologize. They were to get more insight into the views of those who don't like the deer drive hunting style. I'm glad Nathan stepped up to the plate and discussed it with me. That said, I think this thread has ran it's course. I make a motion to adjourn. Just for the record here, I have absolutely nothing against deer drives at all. You've clouded the real issue with this statement. This has nothing to do with the method of hunting, it has to do with the method of taking the shot. My problem was with the planned method of shooting the game, which lies directly on the shooters shoulders.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I'm going on the record now by saying this is not my type of hunting. I have never shot an arrow at a running deer, I've passed up deer that walked through a 15 yard shooting lane because I couldn't get them to stop. Many, many years ago I was in on a bow hunt deer drive like this, but never shot. 3 guys did shoot, the result was 2 does and a nice 8 point buck on the ground. My point is this: it is not up to me to tell someone what they are doing is wrong if it is legal. If my son wanted to shoot at running deer with his bow, I would say something, that would be my place to teach. For someone to come in here and blast this guy for posting his video is not the fight we should be seeking. Again, there are enough anti's out there that will do this for us. We should be defending each other as sportsmen and hunters, not ridiculing. Nobody here is better than anyone else. I would think that as we age, we would become more tolerant and respectful. Not be so quick to judge someone or something they are doing (as long as it's legal). Think of things you did when you were, 18-25 years old......I cringe sometimes at the stuff I used to do....... There, I'm done. Say what you want about this video, this guy, or me. I don't care what you think. Really. :smoke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Just for the record here, I have absolutely nothing against deer drives at all. You've clouded the real issue with this statement. This has nothing to do with the method of hunting, it has to do with the method of taking the shot. My problem was with the planned method of shooting the game, which lies directly on the shooters shoulders.. That's not neccessarily true Steve. The method of shooting was being discussed from the get-go, but then there were some who expressed their displeasure with deer drives in general. So I wanted to know why they thought what they did, that's why I said what I did, it wasn't pointed at you or what you are/were debating with the others. Guess I should have been a little clearer on my end. I'm going on the record now by saying this is not my type of hunting. I have never shot an arrow at a running deer, I've passed up deer that walked through a 15 yard shooting lane because I couldn't get them to stop. Many, many years ago I was in on a bow hunt deer drive like this, but never shot. 3 guys did shoot, the result was 2 does and a nice 8 point buck on the ground. My point is this: it is not up to me to tell someone what they are doing is wrong if it is legal. If my son wanted to shoot at running deer with his bow, I would say something, that would be my place to teach. For someone to come in here and blast this guy for posting his video is not the fight we should be seeking. Again, there are enough anti's out there that will do this for us. We should be defending each other as sportsmen and hunters, not ridiculing. Nobody here is better than anyone else. I would think that as we age, we would become more tolerant and respectful. Not be so quick to judge someone or something they are doing (as long as it's legal). Think of things you did when you were, 18-25 years old......I cringe sometimes at the stuff I used to do....... There, I'm done. Say what you want about this video, this guy, or me. I don't care what you think. Really. :smoke: Ok........................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goinghuntin Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 That said, I think this thread has ran it's course. I make a motion to adjourn. I second that motion Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goinghuntin Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 This thread sure went south fast, just because a few of us didn't go "Yeehaw, what great shootin" I, along with Mike and a few others have calmly stated why we have the opinion we have, and all we're getting is slammed. I've said enough..over and out It only went fast for those who weren't willing to sit down and enjoy the conversation buddy! :1eye: Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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