m gardner Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Seems the problems along our border are getting worse and spilling over into the U.S.. The feds will have to admit we have a problem eventually. This rancher was killed sunday near where I live. http://www.azstarnet.com/news/state-and-regional/article_900ab0a4-82a8-5c76-947c-6a610f43f3a6.html Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzilla45 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 It appears as though the "appointed" one wants to tackle illegal immigration next. I'm curious as to what he has to say about this tragedy. I think we need to patrol the border with M1A1 tanks and A-10 warthogs. That should give them the needed impression to stay away along with a shoot to kill order. :gunsmilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Seems the problems along our border are getting worse and spilling over into the U.S.. The feds will have to admit we have a problem eventually. This rancher was killed sunday near where I live. http://www.azstarnet.com/news/state-and-regional/article_900ab0a4-82a8-5c76-947c-6a610f43f3a6.html Mark Heard a little on that story earlier today, very sad to see any innocent person lose their life, angers me to see lives lost as a result of illegals. It appears as though the "appointed" one wants to tackle illegal immigration next. I'm curious as to what he has to say about this tragedy. I think we need to patrol the border with M1A1 tanks and A-10 warthogs. That should give them the needed impression to stay away along with a shoot to kill order. :gunsmilie: Would surprise me a bit if Obama voluntarily addressed this incident directly, he and his attorney general Eric Holder are more concerned with disarming us, you know take away our ability to defend ourselves to satisfy the Mexican politicians who blame law abiding citizens here for the problems Mexico has with violence in the way of illegal and full auto weapons in their country in the hands of their drug cartels. Irritates me to no end to see politicians in this country that are so warped that they try to convince those who do not know any better that somehow anyone can walk in any gun shop and buy a full auto machine gun and that it is somehow the fault of law abiding gun owners here in this country that the violence exists in Mexico. I would support a shoot to kill order for border control, make examples of those who refuse to follow the laws. Round the clock observation tower snipers, give a warning if it is not heeded do what is necessary. If they do not take the warning, they are doing something they are not supposed to. Enough of these illegals attempting to transport drugs get whacked maybe the violence would dwindle down. Also support getting rid of those illegals that are here now by whatever means it takes, rather than continuing this road we are on of tolerance. Heard a report not too long back that there was somewhere in the neighborhood of 12 million people in this country illegally. Too many illegals get caught and never get deported, huge failure on the part of the agencies involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I'm so glad we don't have problems like that here. Our neighbours are the friendly people of the United States of America. Sad that someone had to lose his life over an illegal immigrant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goinghuntin Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I'm so glad we don't have problems like that here. Our neighbours are the friendly people of the United States of America. Sad that someone had to lose his life over an illegal immigrant. Yeah buddy be glad of it. I had a friend who lives here in Iowa that married a Canadian girl. It took them 6 months to prove they loved each other before we would let her move stateside, just so Washington knew she wasn't taking advantage of our system and our jobs. And yet, on our other border we're letting 'em come on in like its a marathon. Good people like that young couple have to fight for months, giving up love letters, being monitored 24/7. Maybe she just should have jumped the border... Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 If I was ranching there..Id carry a shovel..thats all I'm sayin.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzilla45 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 It's pretty sad that the only place I saw this story was on fox news. I generally watch as much news as I can and on many networks and I just didn't see it anywhere. It's entirely possible that I just missed it but this should be bigger news than it is. This was probably caused by the drug cartels and our nation needs to know that the problems in Mexico are spilling into our country. We need to boycott Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 It's pretty sad that the only place I saw this story was on fox news. I generally watch as much news as I can and on many networks and I just didn't see it anywhere. It's entirely possible that I just missed it but this should be bigger news than it is. This was probably caused by the drug cartels and our nation needs to know that the problems in Mexico are spilling into our country. We need to boycott Mexico. People out here are mostly scared spitless of the drug cartels. They have killed nearly 20,000 people in Mexico in the last 3 years. They have a habit of killing entire families if they are mad at you. They seem to have little fear of anyone. Two friends bought leftover tags near the border last year (no one wants to hunt there anymore so trophy whitetails are easy to come by) and were told by the Fish and Game officer not to go into a certain area because the cartels traffic drugs there. If they know why aren't they doing anything? I'm hearing rumors that this Rancher had been turning in the traffickers and that the evidence shows one person walked up and shot him then walked away. I think that the cartels are so firmly established here that the government is scared that there would be collateral damage on a scale that would amaze you (all over the U.S.) and that it would shut down trade with Mexico and put another nail in the coffin our economy is in. The news and police and politicians have to be afraid of the consequences too. These guys are no joke. That's why most of us walk around armed. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Up until the last few years, there was a pretty clear separation between the illegals who were trying to get in to work and the drug smugglers. But today, they're more often than not one in the same. Makes a bad situation even worse. As to the shovel comment - If you're going to employ that method, I think a backhoe might be a more appropriate tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzilla45 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Seems to me the only way to take care of the problem would be to create a DMZ between the two countries. The problem is obviously that serious but it doesn't seem that anyone in the government cares to do anything about it. I would live in fear of the cartels myself but I'd like to see what they would do if our military boys were down there. For the life of me I can't see why we keep babying Mexico and let them get away with what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 obama likes the illegals and wants to make voters out of them. don't count on much help from washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion_70 Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) Just read that in the recent days there's been an influx in the border towns calling for Political Asylum. It's about time that border gets policed and closed off. If the fed won't do it, I don't see why the border states don't call up the National guard and protect the state.. Shut down the drugs coming in! Edited April 2, 2010 by Orion_70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobbly_Alaska Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 obama likes the illegals and wants to make voters out of them. don't count on much help from washington. yup give them citizen ship and voting cards.. AND not be registered to vote anymore.. just show up.. get rid of the electoral and go on popular vote... buy off the illegals, poverty stricken, and dumb asses, you have your self a dictatorship in one election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion_70 Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 obama likes the illegals and wants to make voters out of them. don't count on much help from washington. That's true, but with the Billions of dollars of drugs and drug money flowing across that border daily, I still don't see why the border state governors don't declare a state of emergency and order the National Guard into action. It's obvious Mexico can't stop the drug flow alone. As long as there is that kind of money to be made, a bountiful supply of product, and no real enforcement from our side, it's a lost cause. If the US Gov't really wanted to stop it, they could. If they won't, States have rights too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 That's true, but with the Billions of dollars of drugs and drug money flowing across that border daily, I still don't see why the border state governors don't declare a state of emergency and order the National Guard into action. It's obvious Mexico can't stop the drug flow alone. As long as there is that kind of money to be made, a bountiful supply of product, and no real enforcement from our side, it's a lost cause. If the US Gov't really wanted to stop it, they could. If they won't, States have rights too..... Don't know that Mexico has any ambition to stop the drug flow or illegals that cross into our country. I do agree that if our govt really wanted to put an end to the drugs entering this country from Mexico that they could for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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