BowJoe Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 One can only speculate as to why this action is being proposed but many have their ideas. One idea is to appease the anti-hunting groups and environmental groups to stop any use of natural resources in these areas such as hunting and timber harvest. The really sad part is that in several Field & Stream articles, they are agreeing with the anti's no matter their affiliation by claiming that any use of this land's natural abundance is harming the outdoorsman as they appear to have turned more into a hiker's environmental magazine than the hunter and fisherman's magazine they claim to be. Just my opinion on F&S but I don't like the articles I have read from them lately. Here's the link to The Dalibama's latest transparency effort. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/27/signs-point-administration-plan-lock-m-acres-federal-land/?test=latestnews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion_70 Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 I saw that article too. What troubles me is the unknown factor behind it and why the secrecy to release of information. One area I would agree on would be mining. Strip mines destroys and changes the natural landscape of the land forever. I don't think that should be allowed on public lands. It's another behind the scenes deal that some politician gets their hand greased. They lease the land for pennies, destroy it and walk away with all the profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted May 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 But this is not what Obama and his extremists want to do. They want to lock out the property for any public use whether it be hiking or any other low impact use. His agenda is our worst fear of what it would be like to have an extreme leftist in office. Why did he wait to act on the oil spill and take, "Charge" of it after 38 days? To let it grow into the largest spill in history and then use it down the road as a reason to not allow further exploration. He said that obviously the oil on land was too hard to access and therefore the big oil companies are being forced to use extreme measures to get to oil. It ignores the fact that we have multiple sources of sustainable oil throughout the US and it's coastal region but they are not allowed to drill any closer to shore or in areas where oil is believed to be extremely abundant. I'm keeping my eye on this and see just how transparent they are going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 But this is not what Obama and his extremists want to do. They want to lock out the property for any public use whether it be hiking or any other low impact use. His agenda is our worst fear of what it would be like to have an extreme leftist in office. Why did he wait to act on the oil spill and take, "Charge" of it after 38 days? To let it grow into the largest spill in history and then use it down the road as a reason to not allow further exploration. He said that obviously the oil on land was too hard to access and therefore the big oil companies are being forced to use extreme measures to get to oil. It ignores the fact that we have multiple sources of sustainable oil throughout the US and it's coastal region but they are not allowed to drill any closer to shore or in areas where oil is believed to be extremely abundant. I'm keeping my eye on this and see just how transparent they are going to be. >So you're saying there should be increased federal regulation of the oil industry? Sounds awfully "leftist" to me.:shifty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 >So you're saying there should be increased federal regulation of the oil industry? Sounds awfully "leftist" to me.:shifty: The regulations on the oil industry are EXACTLY why the Gulf is in the heap of crap it's in. If the darnned libs and environmentalists hadn't prohibited near-shore drilling in the Gulf, there would have been no problems containing a leak a few hundred feet down. But since the drilling companies have been forced out into a mile of water, there's big problems trying to cover up a leaking hole that's that far down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flintlock1776 Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Coal Mine companies have to put up big surety bonds "reclamation bonds" to return the land to a better state once the coal is exhausted. Companies pay for these Bonds in case they don't step up for the reclamation process. Either way, through the company or the Surety the land gets protected. Lots of places put back and perhaps even better than before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 The regulations on the oil industry are EXACTLY why the Gulf is in the heap of crap it's in. If the darnned libs and environmentalists hadn't prohibited near-shore drilling in the Gulf,there would have been no problems containing a leak a few hundred feet down. But since the drilling companies have been forced out into a mile of water, there's big problems trying to cover up a leaking hole that's that far down. > Yes, go re-read my OP, I was pointing out the irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 This administration seems to think it knows what is best for us all. People should be disgusted with the bold contempt the liberals have shown, hopefully that carries into November. On Obama's taking charge, he claimed to have been in meetings and "acting" on this from day one when the spill happened. Of course the Obama admin has also pointed their fingers at Bush for this, go figure. Think we all knew what this meant when it happened in the way of how Obama would use this to further his agenda on drilling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 If he closes up 13 million acres where will I live when I retire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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