cinch314 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Sorry I meant Shot placement. Ok here is the deal. Last night I bought a new target and started shooting my bow. Well most of my groups were good but I noticed 2 arrows flying with the ends right of the others and I cant figure out why. Do I have some bad arrows or was I moving at the end of my release and didnt realize it. Take a look please. There are 4 arrows in the bottom group and then 2 that flew different. That spot that I was shooting at was about 1.5 to 2 inches for the circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suro25 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 You might want to mark your arrows to see if its the same arrows that are off every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinch314 Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I know it is not the same arrows because the one with the 3 inch vanes and is green did it once too. Last night it was always 2 arrows. I forgot to mark them last night. I dont know if Im not following thru on my release or what but 2 arrows either drop way below the other group or go off to the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suro25 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 it sounds like then it is a personal error in the shot sequence. (poor follow through, hand torque, ext) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 it sounds like then it is a personal error in the shot sequence. (poor follow through, hand torque, ext) Yep but I'd still mark the arrows to be sure though. All the arrows you purchase won't spin perfect. I spin test all mine and mark them from the excellent shafts down to the ones that have an excess of wobble. The ones that wobble too much for my liking are marked with a T (trash in my judgement). Only good for stump shooting or something like that IMO. The arrows that spin test perfect or very close to perfect are saved for hunting. Ones on the edge of being close to perfect are target arrows I shoot with field points. When I practice with broadheads I use my hunting arrows. I may be a little over the edge with this but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinch314 Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 That is what I was thinking as well. User error I mean. Thank you for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Re fletch the green 5 inch vanesHi You need to shoot all the same arrows arrows with odd vanes will never never never group with others TIP To tighten group reffletch yoru arrows with NAP Quick Spin vanes With them you Can shoot 20 yard groups at 30 yards Its all many pro use like Dr Randy Ulmer etc Thanks TINK NATHAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 OPPS ALSO YOUR ARROWS ARE STRAIGHT FLETCHED THEY NEED TO BE FLETCHEED WITH AN OFFSET FLETCH OF 3 DEGREES TO MAKE THEM SPIN Tink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinch314 Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 (edited) OK another question. The rubber piece from my cable to my peep sight broke last night and I just took off the little piece of rubber that was connected to the peep sight and then put the rubber back onto the peep sight. Since it is rubber is the lack of 1/2 inch piece going to affect anything? I know I sound stupid but I need to know. Im still kinda new to a bow. Tink my archery shop fletched them. Im not brave or confident enough yet to fletch my own. Edited June 10, 2010 by cinch314 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 OK another question. The rubber piece from my cable to my peep sight broke last night and I just took off the little piece of rubber that was connected to the peep sight and then put the rubber back onto the peep sight. Since it is rubber is the lack of 1/2 inch piece going to affect anything? I know I sound stupid but I need to know. Im still kinda new to a bow. Tink my archery shop fletched them. Im not brave or confident enough yet to fletch my own. I dont think the rubber for your peep sight being a little shorter will change anything. As far as the fletching on your arrows, they do need to all be the same for consistent grouping but the fletching job your archery shop did is fine. IMO straight fletched vanes will work but a little offset is what I prefer. Im just saying I wouldnt go and have them redone because they will work the way they are. They obviously are by the size of the group in the pic except for the two stray arrows. Ive had arrows that shot different from the rest so mark them to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckrich Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Im not brave or confident enough yet to fletch my own. Fletching is no big deal. Yes, you have to get them right and it takes some technique, but this isn't something you wouldn't be able to do yourself. See if you can get someone that knows what they're doing to show you, and 10 minutes later you'll be up and running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAWG Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 It seems you may be dropping your arm early to look for the arrow. Try to make sure you hold you position until the arrow hits the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 It could be the packing inside the target as well. 3-D targets do this, my looper target does it and it's all from the consistancy of the target material. I've had arrows turn completely sideways in a target to in a 3-D target. If its not the same arrows everytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 (edited) Looks like Bow Tuning issue(though it is only a slight one) to me. I think you may find pages 5&6 of some interest: http://www.inberg.ca/bow_tuning_&_maintenance/tuning_guide.pdf Though the guide above is written for a time when the equipment was a little different than is popular for todays archer the principles and techniques for setup and troubleshooting are hard to beat. Edited June 11, 2010 by GWSmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinch314 Posted June 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Well, I numbered the arrows and found out that it was just my shooter form. I nocked one of my arrows last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyways, I found out after shooting last night and really watching what I was doing that it was my shooter form and fatigue played a big part in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckrich Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Good deal, thats a "quick" fix. Just don't forget about it! How much are you shooting to get fatigued? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinch314 Posted June 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Well I just got out my bow on Wednesday and I shot about 50 or 60 times. I know that's not much but pulling back 62lbs and not shooting since I guess around the first of January, I've got to build myself back up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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